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As employees, athletes should have to adhere by same rules as other employees
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:02 am
The university/athletic dept. in this instance is the "boss." If athlete fails to attend practice or class or a game, as required by the boss, he should be subject to fine, docked pay or other disciplinary measure. Athletes shouldn't have free rein to do as they please with no repercussions.
There should be strict rules for performance of duties as with other employees. Until these rules are formalized, it's going to be chaos. When the employees are in charge of the company, it's doomed to fail.
There should be strict rules for performance of duties as with other employees. Until these rules are formalized, it's going to be chaos. When the employees are in charge of the company, it's doomed to fail.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:03 am to liquid rabbit
Okay, who's the employer?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:04 am to liquid rabbit
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As employees
the courts clearly stated that the athletes are NOT employees.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:06 am to Nutriaitch
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
They are paid to play sports. How is that not an employee in fact? Courts aren't infallible.
They are paid to play sports. How is that not an employee in fact? Courts aren't infallible.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:07 am to liquid rabbit
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They are paid to play sports. How is that not an employee in fact? Courts aren't infallible.
independent contractors?
ETA: if they were actually considered employees, I wonder what that would mean for benefits.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:10 am to liquid rabbit
First rule should be that universities should not be allowed to participate in NIL, or paying players…..those dealings should be strictly between the players and clients/boosters.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:10 am to Nutriaitch
Which is what the universities wanted. They did now want players to be employees.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:10 am to liquid rabbit
Johnson v. NCAA (2024) - that's your answer
There are no employers to treat athletes as employees but the door is opened. All you have to do is find those athletes willing to be employees and take ALLL those restrictions when it's the wild wild west for everyone else.
it's not semantics, it's your answer.
There are no employers to treat athletes as employees but the door is opened. All you have to do is find those athletes willing to be employees and take ALLL those restrictions when it's the wild wild west for everyone else.
it's not semantics, it's your answer.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:13 am to LSUfan4444
I venture to say that will be overturned. Are they not getting health care benefits as well as remuneration? I'm curious to know if taxes are being withheld from their paychecks.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:19 am to liquid rabbit
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Courts aren't infallible.
I agree, but unfortunately, they're the ones who get to make that decision, not me.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:20 am to liquid rabbit
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If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
They are paid to play sports. How is that not an employee in fact? Courts aren't infallible.
They aren't being "paid to play sports", no more than Patrick Mahomes is getting paid by State Farm to play for KC. Nor is he an employee of State Farm who pays him to appear in their commercials. You see in the NBA and MLB often where players want to sign with big market teams because of endorsement potential...which is nothing more than NIL.
Now, in practice, the NILs deals are inducements to encourage the player to play for a certain team. But they ARE NOT "employment contracts" in a legal sense. The employer/employee relationship brings with it a large body of law and duties. One, neither the schools nor the players want.
The schools don't want the burden and the players don't want the restrictions
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:25 am to liquid rabbit
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They are paid to play sports. How is that not an employee in fact? Courts aren't infallible.
No they aren’t. According to the NCAA, Colleges and Universities, and the Supreme Court, they are not getting paid to play sports they are getting paid because they themselves, with no affiliation with the school, are valuable.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:28 am to liquid rabbit
quote:This happens now, at least for "skipping" practices or games. What are you complaining about?
If athlete fails to attend practice or class or a game, as required by the boss, he should be subject to fine, docked pay or other disciplinary measure.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:28 am to Oilfieldbiology
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According to the NCAA, Colleges and Universities, and the Supreme Court, they are not getting paid to play sports they are getting paid because they themselves, with no affiliation with the school, are valuable.
Which is a crock of shite. I know it, you know it, the American people know it. They're getting paid to play sports.
I see collective bargaining in the future for college athletes because some are getting screwed on their slice of the pie. It's a slippery slope.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:31 am to liquid rabbit
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Which is a crock of shite. I know it, you know it, the American people know it. They're getting paid to play sports.
No disagreement. However, due to title IX, it can’t be tied to attendance at a school or else the current rules dictate that women receive the same amount of compensation by the schools.
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see collective bargaining in the future for college athletes because some are getting screwed on their slice of the pie. It's a slippery slope.
They would need to unionize first.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:40 am to Nutriaitch
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the courts clearly stated that the athletes are NOT employees.
Okay, then mercenaries. Should be much stricter punishment.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:46 am to liquid rabbit
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When the employees are in charge of the company, it's doomed to fail.
That's not true, and your analogy is bullshite.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:24 pm to liquid rabbit
They are being paid NIL money by boosters, so if they are employees, they are employees of the boosters, not the school or team.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:34 pm to liquid rabbit
quote:Why can’t they be getting paid to be on Gordon McKernan commercials? They derive their value from playing sports, and who Gordon wants doing their commercials.
I know it, you know it, the American people know it. They're getting paid to play sports.
I know G is ponying up for the LSU Football program, but the players are also valuable to the Gordon brand.
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