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Did we have inside help in snatching Maduro?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:22 am
I have never served, so I have ZERO first hand knowledge. It SEEMED very unlikely to me that Maduro could have been snatched from a fortified house on a military base without American loss of life without some inside co-operation from Venezuelans...maybe even a stand down order. The fact that, according to President Trump, we had been in discussions with Maduro's Vice-president made the inside co-operation theory even more compelling. It's even possible that Maduro allowed himself to be captured without a fight in exchange for his life and his wife's.
A Marine buddy of mine who recently retired from flying Apaches says that such a flawless raid WAS plausible.
What do you think? Did we have inside help or was this just the excellent work of the world's greatest military?
A Marine buddy of mine who recently retired from flying Apaches says that such a flawless raid WAS plausible.
What do you think? Did we have inside help or was this just the excellent work of the world's greatest military?
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:23 am to IvoryBillMatt
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What do you think? Did we have inside help or was this just the excellent work of the world's greatest military?
Both
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
Wouldn't surprise me that we had help, the military 4 star wasn't whacked in the limited bombing.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
Most likely the VP that was just sworn in. Doubt it's a coincidence she was in Russia when it went down.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:25 am to IvoryBillMatt
Yes, we definitely had inside help from people close to Maduro who betrayed him. This has been reported by multiple news organizations citing sources from the U.S. government.
It also was a flawless op by our military.
It also was a flawless op by our military.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:26 am to AlterEd
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Most likely the VP that was just sworn in.
Agreed and it was to her benefit to do so
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:27 am to Jbird
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Wouldn't surprise me that we had help, the military 4 star wasn't whacked in the limited bombing.
Jbird, I always appreciate your experience-based perspective. Where did you get specific casualty info?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:27 am to AlterEd
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Most likely the VP that was just sworn in. Doubt it's a coincidence she was in Russia when it went down.
She needs to go back to Russia.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:28 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:I didn't but I would assume his speech would assure the 4star is alive.
Where did you get specific casualty info?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:32 am to IvoryBillMatt
Just a hunch- but I believe the pardon of the former Honduran president possibly had something to do with intelligence
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:02 pm to Jbird
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I didn't but I would assume his speech would assure the 4star is alive.
The head of the military?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:02 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:Correct.
The head of the military?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:05 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I think the answer is clearly yes.
They barely put up a fight and the VP, who faces the same charges as Maduro, has clearly been granted some kind of reprieve.
ETA: the charges were for her office’s predecessor. It is unclear whether she was charged.
They barely put up a fight and the VP, who faces the same charges as Maduro, has clearly been granted some kind of reprieve.
ETA: the charges were for her office’s predecessor. It is unclear whether she was charged.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:10 pm to Hayekian serf
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I believe the pardon of the former Honduran president possibly had something to do with intelligence
The dude who hasn't been out of the US in almost four years?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Of course we had help. Lots of it.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
Did we have inside help or was this just the excellent work of the world's greatest military?
these go hand in hand.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:17 pm to IvoryBillMatt
It has been reported right from the start that we had a CIA presence on the ground, embedded in the regime We knew his daily routines, his coming and goings, and were able to build an exact replica of his bedroom, complete with the safe space with the steel door.
That's some pretty deep and likely very high up inside help.
That's some pretty deep and likely very high up inside help.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 12:19 pm to BamaGradinTn
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It has been reported right from the start that we had a CIA presence on the ground, embedded in the regime We knew his daily routines, his coming and goings, and were able to build an exact replica of his bedroom, complete with the safe space with the steel door.
That's some pretty deep and likely very high up inside help.
This is another big difference between S America and the Middle East.
It is MUCH easier for us to pull this off there. It helps, of course, that we’ve been doing it there for the better part of 100+ years.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:05 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I don’t think there was a whole lot of heart to fight within the Venezuelan military. Maduro isn’t well liked, especially not liked enough for them to fight the U.S. military
This isn’t the Middle East where everyone hates us
This isn’t the Middle East where everyone hates us
Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
We had a Judas in there.
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