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Zelensky (EU) sends new Ukraine/Russia plan to White House

Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:17 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162564 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:17 am


He also agreed to elections in Ukraine in 3 months or some such thing.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162564 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:19 am to
All while EU fines Elon Musk and calls for UK censorship on X.

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Who needs enemies with friends like the EU?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40596 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:21 am to
I wish Trump would shoot him on live tv
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
705 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:21 am to
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He also agreed to elections in Ukraine in 3 months or some such thing.


He’s looking for an escape hatch. The grift off the American tax payer has been secured.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12705 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:21 am to
Does he realize that Ukraine has already given up land? And they are giving up more by the day. I wonder what the situation on the ground will look like in a year.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
7621 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:22 am to
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He also agreed to elections in Ukraine in 3 months or some such thing.


IF the US and EU provide security guarantees and meet other requirements. I'm sure his demands there are going to be impossible to meet, on purpose.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
705 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:28 am to
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And they are giving up more by the day. I wonder what the situation on the ground will look like in a year.


Before Boris Johnson scuttled the first peace attempt between Russia and Ukraine, Odesa was never a Russian objective. Now, Odesa is about to fall. If there is a peace agreement, what is left of Ukraine will likely be landlocked.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2880 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:29 am to
At this point I’d tell Europe if they continue buying oil from Putin they’re on their own.

ETA: and gas and other products.
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Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5798 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:36 am to
If that no land stance includes Crimes, then it proves he doesn't want this grift to end. Russia has no reason to stop so they can keep taking what they want. Nothing these "world leaders" have done have deterred them.

Little Z needs to go away.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8163 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:41 am to
Im still confused....

How exactly is this our problem? Additionally why are we required to solve it?

Defend your borders or don't, been the rule of man for many thousands of years.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162564 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:43 am to
Zelensky may have demanded he get the second "Y" back in his name Zelenskyy bishes!

And a new green outfit from gazoo



And a bag of cash from Turtle----To: campaign stop in Brussels high end shops with his wife and Cindy McCain maybe....

The UK maybe kinda told him mail in ballots only and voter machines from VZ. Gina will return from Germany to provide firepower for the election.

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Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20332 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:03 am to
There will be no peace while he’s president.

The people who put him there won’t allow it.
Posted by sotex
Member since Oct 2018
230 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:08 am to
Yep. frick Zelensky, and Putin alike. Trump should just immediately cut off all arms shipments to Ukraine/Europe and intelligence sharing alike. That’s probably the only way to end the war, anyway.

That corrupt cesspool in Kiev is not going to ‘clean itself up’ after the war in any case. Not another dime.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42978 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:09 am to
Have an election. Have Zelensky against a sane person. If Zelensky wins give up no land and fight on brave Ukrainians. If sanity wins, end the war and stop the deaths.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21283 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:11 am to
Why, why, why doesn't Trump just drop this guy?????
frick em and feed em fish heads. We should stop all support, just walk away.
This was Bidens mistake, Trump tried to clean it up but he fell short.
Chalk it up as a loss and walk away.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11584 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:13 am to
Well you can't say we didn't try. Good luck with your future war.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9887 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:53 am to
Pull all resources and walk away. Tell Merz, Macron, Starmer, and Von de Lyon this is fully your problem now we will not pay another cent nor sell weapons to you. Good luck.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162564 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 12:35 pm to
Any updates? Graham saved Trump from blueslips.

Even Graham cant defend the crook zelensky anymore
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43905 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 12:55 pm to
Good for Zelensky but it doesn’t mean a thing until Russia is serious about stopping the war.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16663 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Good for Zelensky but it doesn’t mean a thing until Russia is serious about stopping the war.


Why would Russia stop? Dead soldiers? Thats the way Russia fights wars, they use the meat grinder tactic.

See Napoleon, WW2 and every other war they have fought.
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