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What do y'all think about a balanced budget amendment? Democratic Socialists say no!

Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53897 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:02 pm
The only sure way the US begins the painful process of slowing and reversing the crushing debt spiral the US is currently experiencing is by passing a balanced budget amendment. It's infuriating to street level Americans to see the US Government running a $2 trillion annual deficit while they are expected to live within their means.

And it really pisses off fiscally responsible Americans to know trillions of US taxpayer dollars have been squandered over the past 25 years on needless wars, hundreds of billions to support mass illegal immigration, hundreds of billions in questionable foreign aid, much of what was likely misdirected, stolen, money laundered, or worse yet, the money was used by both external and internal enemies to facilitate the destruction of the constitutional republic.

It's not very surprising the majority of Democratic Socialist members of Congress do not want a balanced budget amendment, they believe the issue is taxes are too low and the government simply needs more of your money.

Here's the link........

Democratic Socialist reject the need for a balanced budget amendment
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62612 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:04 pm to
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What do y'all think about a balanced budget amendment? Democratic Socialists say no!
To be fair, the GOPE and MAGA (though I repeat myself) seem pretty alergic to a balanced budget, too.

The only way it's going to happen is massive tax increases, because I don't see any demand from voters for any significant spending cuts.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53897 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:16 pm to
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What do y'all think about a balanced budget amendment? Democratic Socialists say no!
To be fair, the GOPE and MAGA (though I repeat myself) seem pretty alergic to a balanced budget, too.

The only way it's going to happen is massive tax increases, because I don't see any demand from voters for any significant spending cuts.


The way you kick start the return to fiscal sanity is by removing the 15-20 million illegals and forcing able bodied Americans to get their asses to work. There are millions of people on full disability who could be working jobs that don't require a lot of physicality and there are millions of Americans who simply aren't working and have no desire to work. I still believe a balanced budget amendment is a requirement if the US is serious about getting US debt under control.
Posted by ghost_rider10
JHS
Member since Nov 2025
469 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:18 pm to
Well America, there is your enemy.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109751 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:39 pm to
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To be fair, the GOPE and MAGA (though I repeat myself) seem pretty alergic to a balanced budget, too.


Has the “MAGA” populous been polled on their thoughts on a Balanced Budget Amendment? I would love to see the results of that, if so.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53897 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Well America, there is your enemy.


The Democratic Socialist are a faction of the DC Uniparty......they have all made a pact to protect their corrupt system.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2247 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:43 pm to
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Has the “MAGA” populous been polled ...
"populace"

or maybe "populists"
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109751 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:47 pm to
Thanks for the correction.

I knew it didn’t look right.

Now, do you know if there’s an answer to my question?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38255 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:54 pm to
There is no such thing as an unbalanced budget. It's either paid for by taxes, borrowing or inflation.

And neither lenin marxists on the left, nor the neocon marxists on the right care about reducing government spending.

This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 9:55 pm
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:19 am to
I believe the primary reason why they don't balance the budget is because to do so would end their chance to be reelected.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135731 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:31 am to
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The way you kick start the return to fiscal sanity is by removing the 15-20 million illegals and forcing able bodied Americans to get their asses to work.
We need a sales tax.
Just implement it to cover interest on the debt.
Nothing else. Just our annual debt borrowing costs.

The sales tax would float with cost of carry of our debt instruments. If interest rates escalated, so would the tax. If rates declined, so would the % of sales tax. If debt ballooned, as it has over the past 20yrs, so would the sales tax.

It would educate the public as to the real costs being run up.

When our $40T debt inevitably settles at a ~4% C-of-C, or ~$1.5T/yr, the sales tax would be raised to cover it. With ~150M US households, the debt coverage sales tax would run around $10,000.00 per household ... per year.

See, I think that is a shared cost exposure that might actually effing wake people up!
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10328 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:42 am to
Until you fix the demographics and electorate dilemma, any talk of balancing the budget or having the federal government be fiscally responsible is a waste of time.

If you really want a balanced budget, your first priority should be mass deportations and mass de-naturalizations. Then it should be decreasing the franchise and electoral pool.

Once all of that happens to a sufficient amount, talks of things like balanced budget can resume.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2247 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:58 am to
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Now, do you know if there’s an answer to my question?
I've not seen one, but I suspect it would look a lot like most Republicans or Democrats. Claiming to support a balanced budget, while being completely unwilling either to cut their pet spending projects or to increase taxes to pay down the debt.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 5:03 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57989 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 6:04 am to


We're well into the Tytler quote now. No one runs for office just to pass a law which will ensure they never win another election again and that's exactly what would happen if we were to have a balanced budget amendment. For FY2024 it would have taken a cut to total spending of ~30% just to balance the budget while still only servicing the debt. That's 30% off of military pay, VA benefits, Medicare/Medicaid, SNAP, highway funds, zip ties for ICE agents, fuel for military vehicles, electricity for every federal building, etc.

This means everyone would know someone personally impacted in a negative manner whether the person is a family member working in the Passport office, their friend who became a farmer and is trying to straighten out their FSA loan or granny needing Medicare for cancer treatments, etc.

We simply no longer have a population willing to sacrifice to that extent any longer so the result is going to be the USD eventually being crushed under the weight of federal debt.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53897 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:19 am to
quote:

The way you kick start the return to fiscal sanity is by removing the 15-20 million illegals and forcing able bodied Americans to get their asses to work.
We need a sales tax.
Just implement it to cover interest on the debt.
Nothing else. Just our annual debt borrowing costs.

The sales tax would float with cost of carry of our debt instruments. If interest rates escalated, so would the tax. If rates declined, so would the % of sales tax. If debt ballooned, as it has over the past 20yrs, so would the sales tax.

It would educate the public as to the real costs being run up.

When our $40T debt inevitably settles at a ~4% C-of-C, or ~$1.5T/yr, the sales tax would be raised to cover it. With ~150M US households, the debt coverage sales tax would run around $10,000.00 per household ... per year.

See, I think that is a shared cost exposure that might actually effing wake people up
!


How about abolishing the Federal Reserve? Why not fix interest rates? Im sure there are plenty of egg headed economists and monetary gurus who could determine a fix interest rate table for the various types of commercial, private and public loans that would be fair and workable for all.

How many times have you heard, "The markets hate uncertainty." ?

You abolish the Fed and fix reasonable interest rates and all the uncertainty is gone and everyone will know the cost to borrow money and they can plan accordingly.

But this^^^ will never happen because those who support the current Federal reserve are the same people who are first to the fiat money trough to get dibs on that cheap money.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
1111 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:22 am to
How can you have balanced budget when the Federal Reserve has a stated inflation goal of 2%? Where is the extra 2% spending going to come from if not Congress?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26333 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:28 am to
My contention has always been this:
Prioritize everything. Rank one to a million. Anything that we did not bring in enough money last year to fund you don't spend. If we brought in 100 dollars last year. We spend up to 100 dollars this year.

Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8387 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:37 am to
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I've not seen one, but I suspect it would look a lot like most Republicans or Democrats. Claiming to support a balanced budget, while being completely unwilling either to cut their pet spending projects or to increase taxes to pay down the debt.


You get elected to Congress tomorrow.

What would you do to EFFECTIVELY move the ball on this issue?

Now tell us how you would do that and be reelected,

If you actually did get anything done, how would you make it tamper-proof after your 2 year "career: in Congress ends?
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