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The Vatican comes out against polygamy, reasserts its position on same-sex marriage...

Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:36 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:36 am
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VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican on Tuesday doubled down on the value of monogamous marriage between a man and woman, responding to concerns raised by African bishops about the practice of polygamy in their flocks.

The document from the Vatican’s doctrine office said the Catholic Church had a well-documented position upholding the indissolubility of marriage as a lifelong union between spouses. But it said the church’s position on the unique and exclusive nature of a monogamous marriage was less well known.

In recent years at Vatican meetings of bishops, African delegates have regularly complained that polygamy is widely practiced among their flocks and asked the Vatican for guidance.

“A Dear One: In Praise of Monogamy” provides them with a doctrinal document tracing the way marriage has been treated in the Bible, poetry, Christian theology and philosophy and by various popes and church councils across history.


Associated Press
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:56 am to
So the Vatican has reduced itself to making suggestions.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17420 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:00 am to
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So the Vatican has reduced itself to making suggestions.


Well they can’t force you.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69474 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:00 am to
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So the Vatican has reduced itself to making suggestions.


I believe they offered the African bishops guidance. It wasn’t a suggestion.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1557 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:05 am to
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I believe they offered the African bishops guidance. It wasn’t a suggestion.


I believe guidance is about as close to a suggestion as you can get

How about saying.. Gee guys the CC has defined marriage the same way for two thousand years.
You are a bishop of the CC , How do you not know that marriage is defined as union between one man and one woman.
Everything else is adultery
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69474 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:25 am to
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How about saying.. Gee guys the CC has defined marriage the same way for two thousand years.
You are a bishop of the CC , How do you not know that marriage is defined as union between one man and one woman.
Everything else is adultery


I think it was a more layered question than that. And the actual document, sadly, hasn't been translated into English yet.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2934 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:52 am to
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CC
It's Roman Catholic, not Catholic Church. The title of the "Holy Apostolic Catholic Church" belongs to the Orthodox.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2334 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:00 pm to
Una Expensive - In Praise of Monogamy

Microsoft Edge will translate it if it's not already in English when you click.
It's pretty big. ~1.5 hour read
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71321 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:03 pm to
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So the Vatican has reduced itself to making suggestions.

Would you like for them to raise an army and begin a holy war?
Posted by retired_tiger
Member since Oct 2025
269 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:18 pm to
Fine and good for religious platform.

But it should have zero influence on public policy.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1557 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:22 pm to
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t's Roman Catholic, not Catholic Church. The title of the "Holy Apostolic Catholic Church" belongs to the Orthodox.


That just like you heretics.
Willing to divide the church over minor shite like the date of Easter.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2334 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:27 pm to
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The title of the "Holy Apostolic Catholic Church" belongs to the Orthodox.


You are missing a mark.

The title of the "One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church" belongs to the Catholic Church.
Posted by TrueTiger
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79789 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:29 pm to

Monogamy is definitely better for men.

In a polygamous system the top 5% of men would lock down all the OT 8s, 9s, and 10s leaving the rest of the men with slim pickens.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31347 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:30 pm to
Nicene Creed FTW
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9504 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:30 pm to
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So the Vatican has reduced itself to making suggestions.


Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17420 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:44 pm to
Don’t listen to members of off brand Christian groups.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58441 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 3:51 pm to
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Would you like for them to raise an army and begin a holy war?

Yes
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17341 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 4:34 pm to
There are far more women in the world and the happiest men and women I know practice polygamy. It just makes sense.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 6:48 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13541 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 5:00 pm to
It says a lot that they even have to re-emphasize their position on these matters. Perhaps if there wasn't so much 'acceptance' these days, and gay couples actually being blessed in the church this stuff wouldn't have to be 'emphasized.'
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2934 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 5:00 pm to
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Nicene Creed FTW
Another Roman Catholic who doesn't know about church history.

You are aware that the Holy Apostolic Catholic Church (i.e., the Orthodox Patriarchates who excommunicated Rome a thousand years ago) adhere to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed (which is the Creed you're talking about that mentions the word, "Catholic")? You are aware that the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed says, and I quote,
quote:

And we believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
And you are aware that there's no "Roman" in the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, right?

You do know what the word, "Catholic," means, right?

You are aware the Nicene-Constantinopolitan creed was written in AD 325 -- almost 800 years before the patriarchate in Rome was excommunicated from the majority Patriarchates during the great schism?

It's the only creed the Apostolic Orthodox Catholic church holds with binding authority. Roman Catholicism was 8 centuries away from becoming a, "thing," when the Orthodox Patriarchates (including Rome) wrote it.

The Roman Catholic church has GOT to do a better job educating its catechist on church history. They're almost as bad as protestants. Almost.
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