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Looking at Sumrall's actual body of work
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:03 pm
LET THE DOWNVOTES COMMENCE!!! TL;DR!!!
He is currently in his fourth year as a head coach. He spent two years at Troy and is in his second year at Tulane. His head coaching record at those two lower tier football schools is 40-11. But, even more impressive, look at 8 of those 11 losses:
TROY
2022: at Ole Miss;
at App State (a 6 point road loss to App State the week after they beat Texas A&M on the road)
2023: at Kansas State;
James Madison (a 2 point loss to a Curt Cignetti coached JMU)
TULANE
2024: Kansas State (7 point loss);
at Oklahoma (it was 24-19 in the fourth quarter);
Florida in the bowl game
2025: at Ole Miss
Oh, and this year, they beat TWO Power 5 schools, blowing out Northwestern (who has looked very competitive in the Big 10 this year) and Duke (who beat Clemson and has been more competitive than not in the ACC this year), and beat Memphis at Memphis (who beat Arkansas in Memphis this year)
I remember when his name was one of the first to pop up several people on here making fun because he beat Duke as though that were something to scoff at when he coaches at frickin Tulane.
I think he really could be the next Cignetti. But, we'll go out and hire Kiffin for $60 million for four years and be right where we are now in 4 years.
He is currently in his fourth year as a head coach. He spent two years at Troy and is in his second year at Tulane. His head coaching record at those two lower tier football schools is 40-11. But, even more impressive, look at 8 of those 11 losses:
TROY
2022: at Ole Miss;
at App State (a 6 point road loss to App State the week after they beat Texas A&M on the road)
2023: at Kansas State;
James Madison (a 2 point loss to a Curt Cignetti coached JMU)
TULANE
2024: Kansas State (7 point loss);
at Oklahoma (it was 24-19 in the fourth quarter);
Florida in the bowl game
2025: at Ole Miss
Oh, and this year, they beat TWO Power 5 schools, blowing out Northwestern (who has looked very competitive in the Big 10 this year) and Duke (who beat Clemson and has been more competitive than not in the ACC this year), and beat Memphis at Memphis (who beat Arkansas in Memphis this year)
I remember when his name was one of the first to pop up several people on here making fun because he beat Duke as though that were something to scoff at when he coaches at frickin Tulane.
I think he really could be the next Cignetti. But, we'll go out and hire Kiffin for $60 million for four years and be right where we are now in 4 years.
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:04 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I’m with ya.
Recency bias is a bitch, and LSU would never hire the Tulane coach.
Someone will get a good one.
Recency bias is a bitch, and LSU would never hire the Tulane coach.
Someone will get a good one.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:05 pm to Tigerpaul1969
His teams always over perform their talent level
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:06 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I think he’d do a great job here. But this board has turned into Kiffin or hire is shite.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:08 pm to Tigerpaul1969
He will be Ole Miss’ next coach
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:10 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I watched his team struggle at Memphis the other day in the second half and get pummeled at Ole Miss.
I’m not sold.
I’m not sold.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:11 pm to St Augustine
quote:
But this board has turned into Kiffin or hire is shite.
No, Sumrall is just the next iteration of the "one of us!" Candidates that wouldn't even be discussed if he was coaching out of state.
There's plenty of Candidates that are superior to him.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:12 pm to Tigerpaul1969
quote:
we'll go out and hire Kiffin for $60 million for four years and be right where we are now in 4 years.
i don't disagree with most of your post, but this quote is absolutely silly.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:15 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Was at that App state game and Troy shouldve won. Last second tipped hail mary TD
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:21 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Looks like Sunbelt Billy hire.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:25 pm to CalTiger53
Napier is a good coach. Sometimes coaches and programs don’t mesh but you don’t win 11 games multiple times at ULL if you’re a bad coach.
Same opinion I have of Scott Frost
Same opinion I have of Scott Frost
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:26 pm to Tigerpaul1969
The streets are saying Auburn
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:47 pm to dbuchanon
WILLIE FRITZ built Tulane back up to being a competitive program, not Sumrall. Sumrall HAS maintained it though. Some coaches suffer from "Archer's Syndrome" when taking over a Program and let it decline back into Irrelevance. (Did yall hear the recent Jaques Doucet interview with Mike Archer? Very good and worth listening to)
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:51 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I watched a total of one offensive series from Tulane this year. WR screen to the left. And then two running plays up the middle for no gain. Been there, done that. Nope
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:53 pm to semjase
Good coach. I went to several games those 2 years he was at Troy...pretty exciting for Sunbelt football...going back to back winning the conference.
That being said, obviously unproven at the P4 level. Wouldn't be a homerun hire for anybody, but a solid double.
That being said, obviously unproven at the P4 level. Wouldn't be a homerun hire for anybody, but a solid double.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 12:54 pm to Tigerpaul1969
His teams are fun to watch.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:00 pm to Klark Kent
Why? Chances are that Kiffin or any coach will probably fall short and average 3 losses a season. So you pay 15 million a year and you get NO significant upgrade other than fancier QB play.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:01 pm to Tigerpaul1969
LSU isn’t hiring him. OM or Auburn.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:01 pm to semjase
quote:
WILLIE FRITZ built Tulane back up to being a competitive program, not Sumrall.
This narrative needs to die. When Fritz left 60 players from Tulane hit the portal. He had nothing except Mensah coming back. Also, Troy won 5 games in three seasons before he went there. They won 10+ in both his seasons there. Is he ready for a job like LSU or Auburn? Probably not, but he will be an excellent coach at a big program
Posted on 11/19/25 at 1:02 pm to Tigerpaul1969
quote:If we want the next Cignetti, then LSU should hire his right hand man. His OC Mike Shanahan has been with him since JMU, and there is no better candidate to run Cignetti's offense/system.
I think he really could be the next Cignetti. But, we'll go out and hire Kiffin for $60 million for four years and be right where we are now in 4 years.
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