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Is the USA failing at education?

Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:47 am
Posted by TigerPlate
North Dallas
Member since Dec 2023
450 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:47 am
Or more appropriately, why is the populace so uneducated?
In 1966 when I graduated from Baton Rouge High School, That diploma was pretty much a given that you had passed civics, were fluent in English, could read and write and could solve math problems and Algebra. Today's graduate, not so sure that is still true. Why?
Teachers Union, lack of dedication and interest in the students, devalued diploma, Wasted time in classroom devoted to subjects not related to learning. The National test overall prove the decline. Sure there are still those who excel, but I am talking about the average student. I also wonder if this dumbing down has an effect on voter's not being able to research and read candidates qualifications. Also wonder whether immigration and non English speaking students have a negative effect? Something is wrong witht the education system. I not sure how best to fix it. Thoughts?
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
2338 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:49 am to
No, we have the best schools. Especially in the inner cities. Always good when half the students can’t read.

Trump failed here too. Didn’t fix it in 10 months.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
18971 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:49 am to
No child left behind ensured that all education is to the lowest common denominator.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92279 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:50 am to
Its obvious to anyone after what we have seen on campus the last 10yrs with all these crazy kids

Kirk was changing that. But thats gone now
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30647 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:51 am to
It’s failing every where. We are in a spiral. AI and Robots may be the only thing that produces us out of the financial hole we’re in.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
3409 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:53 am to
Let me frame it this way. The educational industrial complex does not want Americans employed. Trades were dropped almost everywhere. Those jobs didn't go away and in fact became more in demand. More recently we've seen the same on the white collar side resulting in the large H1B imports.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7069 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:56 am to
The elephant in the room is single parent households. No value of education on the home front. Teacher unions are down on the list. Administrators need to ensure teachers teach the curriculum as approved by the board. Too many district administrators have no clue what is going on in the classroom on a daily basis. Admin is more at fault than unionized teachers because they don’t know how to properly manage teachers.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12697 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:57 am to
Woke curriculum and teachers unions.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58231 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:00 am to
Yes


The education system is tailored to the lowest common denominator


We used to have a system for the schools that worked better but the libs said it was bad
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9854 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:02 am to
Federalized education, beginning under Bush Jr. and really setting sail under Obama, drastically changed K-12 and college curriculum. Extrapolate from that what you may.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7562 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:05 am to
Defund all public education.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2371 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Is the USA failing at education?


Let me share an observation that many people may overlook, and it begins at home rather than in the classroom.

It requires a household where parents are actively engaged and well-informed about their child's education. This includes parents who regularly sit with their children to review their work and reinforce their understanding of the subject matter. It also involves parents who utilize available parent portals to monitor course progress and track grades.

My parents did this for me, and my wife and I have done the same for each of our children. Such involvement can significantly influence their development, often leading to positive outcomes. I have seen some criticize public education; however, both of my sons attended reputable public schools known for their academic standards. Neither of them has any college or postgraduate debt, thanks to earned academic scholarships.

Ultimately, the responsibility cannot rest solely on teachers to reach students. Parents must be actively involved.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 8:10 am
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6085 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:06 am to
Quick and simple answer is, yes. It's way more sinister than that though. This is by design and has been since the Rothchilds and Rockefellers funded and influenced the education system in this country. They didn't want to produce free and critical thinking students, they wanted people 'educated' just enough to become slaves to the system.

But, what really needs to happen is for parents to push and motivate their children to become critical thinkers, question everything, and seek truth. Don't let the damn TV and public schooling be there only means of influence.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 8:09 am
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5450 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:08 am to
Yes it is failing very badly in preparing the next generation for math and technology based careers. It is laughably bad
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
3925 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:10 am to
"failing" implies an attempt to do better than the current outcome and that isn't the case. what's going on in the intentional and orchestrated design to not educate but indoctrinate "students" and dumb-down the populace
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10995 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:11 am to
We inherited my FIL's high school yearbook. One of his friends joked about how Al got through his Latin and Greek courses.
My Father's yearbook had a picture of him as a Senior with a mustache. Heck, that would have been forbidden 40+ years later when I was in high school.

I wouldn't say the USA is failing, I'd be more likely to shout out that parents are failing in so many ways.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5824 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:17 am to
It’s all about the parents. The buck starts and stops there.
Posted by 03 West CoChamps
Member since Sep 2024
535 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:22 am to
quote:


Or more appropriately, why is the populace so uneducated?


Middle and High schools are day cares not education buildings. Hard to teach when the whole system caters to the bottom 10% who don't even want to be educated.

No Child Left Behind was a horrible horrible piece of legislation that destroyed what was left of the teen education system.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22773 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:25 am to
The USA is failing at education because too many of the kids have shitty parents who don't give AF.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79559 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:27 am to
quote:

teachers unions.


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