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Killing the filibuster is no guarantee of anything
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:38 pm
With senators like Collins, Murkowski, McConnell, Paul, and Cassidy...would the Rs even have the votes to kill it?
And even if they did, you better believe those names above may be just the "moderates" the Ds need to keep anything of substance getting passed.
Can you imagine actually killing it...and STILL getting nothing done due to the straddlers!
And even if they did, you better believe those names above may be just the "moderates" the Ds need to keep anything of substance getting passed.
Can you imagine actually killing it...and STILL getting nothing done due to the straddlers!
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:40 pm to Vandergriff
Senator Mamdani will run wild if it's eliminated
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:40 pm to Vandergriff
You are correct.
There's no guarantee that the moderates would go along with removing the filibuster or the succeeding attempts at legislation. Similar to when the moderate Democrats did the same thing previously
There's no guarantee that the moderates would go along with removing the filibuster or the succeeding attempts at legislation. Similar to when the moderate Democrats did the same thing previously
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:42 pm to Vandergriff
The filibuster must stay
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
That's exactly why I believe it's a bad idea. Short of guarantees from those particular senators it may not only be wasted but precedent would be set and gloves would be off going forward.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:53 pm to Vandergriff
The Republicans absolutely do not have 50 votes to kill the filibuster. Murkowski, Collins, and McConnell are absolutely NO votes. They aren’t batting 50 for 50 on the remaining senators.
The only solution is to continue to hold votes on a clean CR highlighting that the democrats are not voting to reopen the government and are thus hurting Americans.
The only solution is to continue to hold votes on a clean CR highlighting that the democrats are not voting to reopen the government and are thus hurting Americans.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:54 pm to Vandergriff
I'll go a step further. Say you successfully nuke the filibuster and get enough votes to pass legislation, how much survives a court challenge?
Mandatory voter ID and banning mail in ballots will get struck down with a quickness because states control their own elections.
Mandatory voter ID and banning mail in ballots will get struck down with a quickness because states control their own elections.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:30 pm to PJinAtl
You just know that Schumer and the Dems WANT the Rs to kill it. They will tie up any voting legislation that passes in court AND they know a few R senators might cross over anyway.
Do not do it Thune. Stand your ground.
Do not do it Thune. Stand your ground.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:54 pm to Vandergriff
Killing it is a terrible idea. I would rather government inaction than the party in power running amok.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:58 pm to PJinAtl
quote:
Mandatory voter ID and banning mail in ballots will get struck down with a quickness because states control their own elections.
The fed can implement standards for federal elections.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:05 am to Vandergriff
quote:
With senators like Collins, Murkowski, McConnell, Paul, and Cassidy...would the Rs even have the votes to kill it?
And even if they did, you better believe those names above may be just the "moderates" the Ds need to keep anything of substance getting passed.
Can you imagine actually killing it...and STILL getting nothing done due to the straddlers!
You're probably correct but believe me, when the Dims get a chance they will certainly use the nuclear option.....in the end one side will win and one side will lose and that's where we are.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:53 am to Vandergriff
Not worth getting rid of it. The names mentioned will McCain anything you want. There will be just enough to torpedo everything.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:55 am to Vandergriff
Trump wants to kill it to outlaw mail in voting nationwide, with the idea the GOP would never lose the Senate ever again with fair elections.
While I understand this idea, there is a huge risk that banning mail in voting would lose in a court challenge and then you're left with no guardrails against the lunatic left the next time the Democrats hold the WH and Capitol Hill.
While I understand this idea, there is a huge risk that banning mail in voting would lose in a court challenge and then you're left with no guardrails against the lunatic left the next time the Democrats hold the WH and Capitol Hill.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:07 am to Vandergriff
The Senate Democratic makeup in the next 12 years will make Bernie Sanders look like an alt right loon. It’s like slippery slopes don’t exist. These 3rd world commies are getting dolled up and are going to start pushing these moderate non leftist loons into retirement. The next time the Dems have a majority filibuster is history
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 6:10 am
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:23 am to SlayTime
The next time the Dems have a majority filibuster is history.”(quote ST)
There it is. The bottom line. The Constitutional Republic is done, one way or the other. Maybe AI can show us how to make what replaces it better.
There it is. The bottom line. The Constitutional Republic is done, one way or the other. Maybe AI can show us how to make what replaces it better.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:28 am to Vandergriff
We clearly know who is responsible for the shut down but the dems will figure out a way that the SNAP (just a small part of it) recipients blame the Republicans.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:56 am to Vandergriff
Are the Dems actually speaking 24/7 like they should to keep the filibuster going?
If not then why are the Republicans letting them get away with it?
Heard very little news on it and would like to know why.
If not then why are the Republicans letting them get away with it?
Heard very little news on it and would like to know why.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:04 pm to Vandergriff
No they don’t have the votes. Thune has already said he doesn’t have the votes
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