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Freeman is BK 2.0 ...Denbrock is the key to ND Success

Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:48 pm
Posted by 756
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:48 pm
Kelly was 11-2 at ND with Denbrock
Next year Freeman goes 9-4
Denbrock returns and ND goes 10-3 and following year 14-2 etc

LSU loses Denbrock and well you know.......It's not Freeman we need





He and Denbrock at lsu
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:02 pm to
Well this is a pretty simplistic way to look at it.

Marcus Freeman is the polar opposite of BK. He's not God's gift to football either but they are totally different in every single way.


Side Note: Kelly didn't bring Denbrock from Notre Dame with him. Denbrock was coaching at Cincinnati from 2017 to 2021.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted by TigerGrad03
Member since Dec 2024
952 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Freeman is BK 2.0



No, he isn't. Kelly is a very good college coach, but he's not hungry. He wanted to win, but he didn't have the desire and the energy necessary to win in the SEC. Freeman is young, hungry, relatable, and would be a homerun hire for LSU.


Had BK come in and had the same fire he had when he first got to ND from Cincy, he would've had a lot more success here.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:11 pm to
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LSU loses Denbrock
LSU lost Jayden Daniels...
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
56094 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:24 pm to
I think Freeman would do well here. But heard too many stories when he was in the DC search about not wanting to move down here.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:31 pm to
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But heard too many stories when he was in the DC search about not wanting to move down here.
which DC search? there have been so many...
Posted by tigerfan5803
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:41 pm to
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which DC search? there have been so many..


Ed's 2nd DC search, after the Pelini return went so swimmingly
Posted by Fbohn1
Member since Jun 2009
331 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:45 pm to
Isn’t this Freeman‘s only 4th year as a head coach. And he’s young. I’m not saying he’s the next best thing, but always comparing him to an older much more seasoned Head coach seemed odd to me. He’s still young and still learning in my opinion.
Posted by Returnofzeus
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:48 pm to
given the lack of inside information on here and through our actual paid 'insiders', those stories were likely total BS
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
56094 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:04 pm to
Before we got Bo I think. I’ll try to find the article snippet.

Might’ve been Shea or someone, but wife wasn’t about moving down here.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
4148 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 2:54 pm to
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LSU lost Jayden Daniels...


This is the correct answer. Denbrock's offense wasn't exactly mindblowing outside of JD making massive plays out of nothing.
Posted by burke985
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:00 pm to
I don't think so I like freeman his players love him unlike BK
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 3:01 pm
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15763 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:03 pm to
So Chicken you leaning toward thinking Freeman is the target of Verge?

I am thinking Freeman is getting a lot of staff support in his brief success and unless he brings Denbrock..which he will not because Denbrock wants to stay at ND and would be a candidate for head coach...without Denbrock I think his offense would likely be sub par. Just my very unprofessional opinion..we all have opinions
Posted by Chicken
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:05 pm to
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without Denbrock I think his offense would likely be sub par.
without Denbrock, he could have had a different OC that could be better than Dnbrock...we will never know...
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
9901 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:22 pm to
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Might’ve been Shea or someone, but wife wasn’t about moving down here.

It was before we hired Daronte Jones. I remember it was floated around as a rumor, but it was obvious that O’s seat was very hot and ND wasn’t looking to fire BK.
After Kelly left for LSU, Freeman himself said he was headed to LSU as BK’s DC until ND offered him the head coaching job.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
56094 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:35 pm to
My man thanks
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
9901 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:36 pm to
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This is the correct answer. Denbrock's offense wasn't exactly mindblowing outside of JD making massive plays out of nothing.

Denbrock’s best offenses:
2021 Cincinnati - Desmond Ritter
2023 LSU - Jayden Daniels
2024 ND - Riley Leonard
All were 5th year Sr QBs

Given the expected candidate pool this cycle - we could do MUCH worse than Freeman. Would be a HR hire
Posted by YankeeJoe
Tennessee
Member since Nov 2025
6 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 3:40 pm to
First off, having watched just about every ND game twice over the last two years of Denbrock I see nothing special about his ability. He’s a serviceable coordinator that seems to work around the skill sets of his talent, but hasn’t shown the same skill set at in game transition.

One could even argue his use of tight ends is poor and situational gameplay is predictable.

As far as Freeman goes, you understand ND was his backup choice for schools to play at (choosing OSU), his family has since converted to Catholicism, and he’s just about lived his entire adult life in the Midwest. Nd has committed to updated facilities (opens next year) and assistants are now well paid (not competitive in the past). The next 2 recruiting classes are stacked with talent from all over the nation.

If he goes anywhere by choice, it will be OSU or the NFL. It’s time to move on.
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
9901 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 3:53 pm to
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If he goes anywhere by choice, it will be OSU or the NFL. It’s time to move on.

I don’t disagree. Josh Pate was the first to mention him as a potential candidate, and our AD wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t at least call to gauge interest. Given that our AD’s oldest son played for Freeman. they have a relationship.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14588 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 4:24 pm to
Marcus Freeman lives rent free in many domes here
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