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The Athletic: The Meddling of Scott Woodward

Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:00 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:00 pm
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It’s not common for athletic directors to be so involved in football staff hires, but Woodward is different from most ADs. One of Woodward’s first big moves back in Baton Rouge was to push for Orgeron to hire Bo Pelini, a fiery former LSU assistant, to come back as defensive coordinator in 2020.

Kelly’s Tigers finished the 2023 season by playing in the ReliaQuest Bowl, despite featuring three first-round picks on offense: Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Jayden Daniels and receivers Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas. Kelly responded with more staff changes, especially on defense.

Woodward was again heavily involved in decisions that led to several coaches and staffers with LSU ties — some of whom had been swept out during the initial purge — being brought back after the 2023 season.

Among the most notable was senior associate AD Austin Thomas, a former personnel staffer under both Miles and Orgeron who had been bouncing around the SEC, from Oxford to Baton Rouge to Knoxville and then to College Station with Woodward. He was then brought back to LSU by Woodward to address recruiting shortcomings and the lack of in-state ties Kelly and his original staff had.

A former LSU staffer said Woodward often met with Thomas to discuss personnel and recruiting. Woodward would pop into a position coach’s office to go over specific recruits, which was baffling for coaches trying to focus on the week’s game planning and upcoming opponent.

“I have never been around an AD who was in the football office more than this guy,” said the former staffer
who came to Baton Rouge when Kelly was hired but has since moved on.



The Athletic
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:04 pm to
Some people think he was a great AD. The reality is he was pretty terrible. His little bit of accomplishments he did have (w-bball and baseball) is completely overshadowed by enormous buyouts and the destruction of the LSU men's basketball program.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21640 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:05 pm to
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A former LSU staffer said Woodward often met with Thomas to discuss personnel and recruiting. Woodward would pop into a position coach’s office to go over specific recruits, which was baffling for coaches trying to focus on the week’s game planning and upcoming opponent.

“I have never been around an AD who was in the football office more than this guy,” said the former staffer


Maybe I'm not getting it, but this doesn't seem egregious.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13502 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:10 pm to
He came in April 2019 to LSU. 2019 is not because of SW contrary to belief here.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13502 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:11 pm to
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Maybe I'm not getting it, but this doesn't seem egregious.

I mean do you like being micromanaged by your boss’ boss?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62307 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:13 pm to
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When the player, a former starter, decided he was going to transfer from LSU, he was informed by his position coaches that he would have a one-on-one meeting with Kelly to discuss why he wanted to leave. But Kelly never showed up to the meeting, according to the former player. Asked if he was surprised that Kelly’s tenure in Baton Rouge was cut short, the former player said no.


Wow.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9730 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:14 pm to
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Maybe I'm not getting it, but this doesn't seem egregious.


It sounds like huge PITA to get your job done properly.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61589 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:14 pm to
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“I have never been around an AD who was in the football office more than this guy,” said the former staffer who came to Baton Rouge when Kelly was hired but has since moved on.



yikes
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13502 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:15 pm to
Sounds like Denbrock
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4090 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:23 pm to
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Some people think he was a great AD. The reality is he was pretty terrible. His little bit of accomplishments he did have (w-bball and baseball) is completely overshadowed by enormous buyouts and the destruction of the LSU men's basketball program.

There are really only two revenue producing sports: football and men's basketball. I wonder which sports should be best?
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
3514 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:25 pm to
How many times was SW spotted in the locker room?
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4595 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:26 pm to
I dont blame him Woodward.

Kelly failed with that initial coaching staff.

BK's first full class (2023) was a complete dumpster fire. 18 of the 26 signees are no longer with the program. Only 2 (Weeks & Stamps) has played entire season as a starter and Stamps is no longer on the team.

Fast forward 18 months later, he's begging for 18-20 mil to spend on transfers because he doesn't have the depth/talent to compete.

Terrible effort, evaluation, and development.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6099 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:28 pm to
So the article doesn’t say it outright, but if Woodward was behind bringing back Thomas, Raymond, and Baker… he may have mitigated a situation that had potential to be worse than it was
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13290 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:29 pm to
This happened under O as well. He spoke plenty of times in his press conferences that Woodward would come check in with him about recruiting.

If Woodward played a role in scouting/recruiting players I would be concerned, but showing investment and attention to what you need to do get the top players at the highest revenue producing sport should not be frowned upon.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13502 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:31 pm to
Does hiring Pelini to a 3 year deal over a zoom call considered frowned upon?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24831 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:34 pm to
Woodward brought it on himself.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
14885 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:38 pm to
BK was an abject failure. Many thanks to Scott Woodward.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41716 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:41 pm to
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A former LSU staffer said Woodward often met with Thomas to discuss personnel and recruiting. Woodward would pop into a position coach’s office to go over specific recruits, which was baffling for coaches trying to focus on the week’s game planning and upcoming opponent.

“I have never been around an AD who was in the football office more than this guy,” said the former staffer



Maybe I'm not getting it, but this doesn't seem egregious.



I'm with you. Maybe since he came with Kelly, he is not used to his boss being engaged at all.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9002 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:43 pm to
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One of Woodward’s first big moves back in Baton Rouge was to push for Orgeron to hire Bo Pelini


Is this actually true?
I’ve never heard of this until this week

The previous reports where that O wanted him and hired him without so much as an interview
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23449 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:53 pm to
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Maybe I'm not getting it, but this doesn't seem egregious.


No one likes to be micro managed by the big boss. You put people in place to do a job. If you don’t trust them to do it you shouldn’t have hired in the first place. This is shitty management no other way to slice it.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 5:55 pm
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