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State of the Franchise - Rock bottom with almost no hope thanks to Dumars' stupid trades
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:36 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:36 am
Team is 0-4 and now getting blown out.
Worst coach in the league and a clueless owner.
No. 2 "star" looks like absolute dog shite.
Poole looks exactly like everyone outside Pels homers thought. Wildly erratic.
None of this is that surprising but what kills me is the trades.
Indiana is winless. So fricking stupid to trade that pick last year. Just insane.
And of course the worst trade in franchise history with this years Pels pick.
So we have probably the worst, coach, GM and owner in the league and no draft pick this year.
Until they fire Willie, there is zero point following the team. I'll give Borrego a shot, but even then I have almost zero hope thanks to Dumars.
Worst coach in the league and a clueless owner.
No. 2 "star" looks like absolute dog shite.
Poole looks exactly like everyone outside Pels homers thought. Wildly erratic.
None of this is that surprising but what kills me is the trades.
Indiana is winless. So fricking stupid to trade that pick last year. Just insane.
And of course the worst trade in franchise history with this years Pels pick.
So we have probably the worst, coach, GM and owner in the league and no draft pick this year.
Until they fire Willie, there is zero point following the team. I'll give Borrego a shot, but even then I have almost zero hope thanks to Dumars.
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:39 am to ghost2most
I'll add that LSU is pretty fricked too. You have an absolute clown show governor inserting himself in the process.
An already poor and dysfunctional state is about to get even bleaker sports wise.
An already poor and dysfunctional state is about to get even bleaker sports wise.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:00 am to ghost2most
quote:the franchise is on the brink of being finished. It doesn’t look good under Gayle’s watch
Until they fire Willie, there is zero point following the team. I'll give Borrego a shot, but even then I have almost zero hope thanks to Dumars.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:04 am to ghost2most
Dumars is a dumbarse.
That is all
That is all
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:08 am to ghost2most
quote:
I'll add that LSU is pretty fricked too. You have an absolute clown show governor inserting himself in the process.
Pels bad.
Saints bad.
LSU football bad.
LSU basketball PROBABLY bad.
Dark times, my dude.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:12 am to ghost2most
The trade Dumars made may go down as all time bad
If you’re a borderline playoff team hey I get the gamble kind of….but even fully healthy this roster is weird, I don’t know how he operated under the notion that this outcome wasn’t incredibly likely.
If you’re a borderline playoff team hey I get the gamble kind of….but even fully healthy this roster is weird, I don’t know how he operated under the notion that this outcome wasn’t incredibly likely.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:15 am to BilJ
quote:I don’t? How is another rookie going to improve the team this year? Playing two rookies and giving them minutes to develop is only going to generate losses usually. It was always only going to hurt the team short term.
If you’re a borderline playoff team hey I get the gamble kind of
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 8:25 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:16 am to Macintosh
Idk I’m just trying to semi justify the logic or lack there of I guess
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:20 am to BilJ
I know. You can’t unfortunately. With our injury history, lack of size in a league that’s getting bigger, lack of perimeter shooting, Willie green as your coach, and competing against an absolutely stacked western conference, it was always meant to fail. 
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:22 am to Macintosh
quote:
I don’t? How does another rookie going to improve the team this year? Playing two rookies and giving them minutes to develop is only going to generate losses usually. It was always only going to hurt the team short term.
Right. Like adding two rookies, Jordan Poole and Looney are gonna make a bottom five team a playoff team. It’s laughably stupid.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:26 am to higgsBoson
Oh my sweet summer child, we have a LONG way to go to get to Rock Bottom. Best shape ever Zion has played in 3 of the 4 games so far. Wait until he checks out.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:28 am to BilJ
quote:
The trade Dumars made may go down as all time bad If you’re a borderline playoff team hey I get the gamble kind of….but even fully healthy this roster is weird, I don’t know how he operated under the notion that this outcome wasn’t incredibly likely.
Still wouldn’t make sense. When you make a trade like that your team should be in win now mode and you’re trading for a borderline all star or maybe even an all star. Not for an unproven rookie who’s outside of the lottery
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 8:29 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:29 am to saints5021
Dumars was a very bad GM the last half of his run in Detroit. Hiring him 15+ years later is just beyond negligent.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 9:24 am to ghost2most
quote:
I'll add that LSU is pretty fricked too. You have an absolute clown show governor inserting himself in the process.
I'd cut the Pels leadership a lot of slack if they won three titles since 2000
Posted on 10/30/25 at 9:30 am to ghost2most
But Dantheman told us we had like 8 potential all stars on this team 
Posted on 10/30/25 at 9:48 am to ghost2most
I actually love the fact that despite all the shite of Griffin, the two guys under his tutelage (Langdon and Graham) are now president or VP of basketball operations for two teams who have rebuilt/rebuilding.
We on the other hand, fricking hired a guy who hasnt held that job in 15 years.
We on the other hand, fricking hired a guy who hasnt held that job in 15 years.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:14 am to ghost2most
the season is over before November
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:25 am to TigerintheNO
This is far from rock bottom. Just wait till Zion misses his yearly 50 games, we hand Atlanta a top 3 pick, and we double down on Zion again next year.
We’ll be a bottom 5 team the next 2-3 years before some rich guy gives Gayle 5 billion for the team and moves the franchise so fast it’ll make your head spin.
We’ll be a bottom 5 team the next 2-3 years before some rich guy gives Gayle 5 billion for the team and moves the franchise so fast it’ll make your head spin.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:28 am to BilJ
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The trade Dumars made may go down as all time bad
If the pelicans pick hits in the top 3 and the pacers in the top 10, I think those trades will end up costing New Orleans an NBA team.
Which would make it the worst set of deals of all time.
And largely predictable. We won 21 games last year and our roster was better last year.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 12:01 pm to ghost2most
Other than this everything is fine.
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