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Listening to Hester and Flynn breakdown offense is pretty sickening

Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:29 am
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
23955 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:29 am
Nuss gets a lot of blame around here and some of it is warranted. But when the offense cannot move the ball and then they throw out a stat that on the vast majority of play calls we have no receivers even running through the middle of the field and that most of our passes deep are just designed bombs....

Its disturbing that Sloan kept his job as long as he did.


Here's to hoping that regardless of who Frank and Co. decides will be taking snaps, they at least have the option to throw it to the middle of the field.



Edit to add that prior to the last game we hardly ever used a receiver in the run blocking game. We just had receivers running routes on designed runs… make it make sense. Then all of a sudden they decide to start having receiver head hunt the safety crashing into the box and low and behold we start picking up rushing yards… but then in the second half we just completely give up on the run game?

Sloan was way out of his league and Kelly 100% hitched his wagon to a moron.


This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 7:40 am
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
6452 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:33 am to
Horizontal passing game
We have 6rbs on every play
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 7:34 am
Posted by Deathvalley71
Dallas
Member since Oct 2004
1055 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:35 am to
I’d like to the number intermediate passes (10-15 yards) we had over the middle, it’s got to be a very low number. Everything was a short slant.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 7:40 am
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
23955 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:37 am to
They said it was minimal the amount of times we even had a receiver running between the hashes over 5 yards.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22572 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:41 am to
Sloan was incredibly bad. Play sequence was probably the worst I’ve ever seen. A race to 3rd and long with no play to convert. Straight up omitting RBs from the game plan.

That’s how you know Kelly had to go, any coach with any level of investment would have been calling plays by week 3. I imagine my older son watching in disgust while his little brother fumbles through a Nintendo game - that shite ends in a fight at my house, he would rather be punished from Nintendo than allow bad Nintendo.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
11967 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:41 am to
Its what I have been saying all season. The offensive structure as a whole has been terrible. Nuss at times has left plays on the field but between getting his arse kicked and not having good offensive structure from play calls, unpredictability, and WR rotation he was setup for failure this season. Its maddening. There are legit play calls where its 3rd and 5-7 and we're calling a TE or HB screen. Its awful. That will be something I look to see if thats been fixed but we will see.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20294 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:43 am to
I'm not a big Nussmeier fan, but asking a QB who is apparently hurt to consistently make sideline throws, almost exclusively, for your offense to work is a recipe for losing and getting fired.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
23955 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:53 am to
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Its what I have been saying all season. The offensive structure as a whole has been terrible. Nuss at times has left plays on the field but between getting his arse kicked and not having good offensive structure from play calls, unpredictability, and WR rotation he was setup for failure this season. Its maddening. There are legit play calls where its 3rd and 5-7 and we're calling a TE or HB screen. Its awful. That will be something I look to see if thats been fixed but we will see.



I'd also add that when we did find a rotation that worked and started moving the ball, we'd get within the 20 and all of a sudden our 35 second play clock would dwindle down to 15 seconds and then Sloan would try to bring in a different set of players.... which directly led to Timeouts being taken when we had the defense on their heels. We'd trot out the receivers, call time out and then give the defense the same exact look we were giving them prior to taking the time out... we'd commit an offsides, an illegal formation, a stupid Wildcat that we never run or a number of other blunders.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45921 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:55 am to
Heard that as well and for me, it further confirmed what my eyes were seeing. I know we like to blame certain players as well, but everything about that offense stunk and made it difficult for any player to really shine. And then when they did, for whatever reason they would no longer keep going to that player as we saw last weekend with Berry and Trey'Dez Green.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
23955 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:56 am to
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And then when they did, for whatever reason they would no longer keep going to that player as we saw last weekend with Berry and Trey'Dez Green.



Every single goalline or redzone play should be an isolation of Tredez... until it doesnt work it should be the call.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33847 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:59 am to
The systemic flaws of Sloan's offense were there last year too. It was maddening how often they avoided the middle of the field despite that clearly being where Nuss thrived. The only difference is last year they would, after having no success early, eventually get to the middle of the field. This year they haven't. Maybe because of a lack of confidence in the OL. Regardless, the overall approach by Sloan has been AWFUL. If Kelly couldn't see that after 10, 13, 15, 17 games, then he deserved to go too.

Everyone who played offense at a high level consistently commented on just how bad the offensive approach was. Hester and (less so) Flynn somewhat soft peddled their criticism, but you could feel how badly they wanted to fully blast how poor the offensive approach was. Now that BK and Sloan are gone, you're hearing them say the things they somewhat held back prior to.
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
1868 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:01 am to
My favorite was all the qb sneaks, to stretch him and have him getting hit knowing hes hurt ha. Can't make it up
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4552 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:03 am to
It makes no sense that we refused to run slants this year?

Aaron Anderson and Treydez can just be slant merchants all day
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
1868 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:04 am to
Yup. Aa, brown, zavion are slant nightmares 1 on 1.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33423 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:08 am to
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They said it was minimal the amount of times we even had a receiver running between the hashes over 5 yards.


Thats like the best pass that Nuss throws. Sloan is an idiot.
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 8:08 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16374 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:11 am to
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I'd also add that when we did find a rotation that worked and started moving the ball, we'd get within the 20 and all of a sudden our 35 second play clock would dwindle down to 15 seconds and then Sloan would try to bring in a different set of players.... which directly led to Timeouts being taken when we had the defense on their heels. We'd trot out the receivers, call time out and then give the defense the same exact look we were giving them prior to taking the time out... we'd commit an offsides, an illegal formation, a stupid Wildcat that we never run or a number of other blunders.

This is one of the most maddening things. The insistence on rotating every WR in throughout the game destroyed continuity and tempo. Nic Anderson and Sharp have not contributed, but we continued to force them into the rotation. Whenever we ran some tempo the offense was actually productive. The 1st half TD drive vs A&M was on rhythm and had a mix of run/pass and we never seemed to attempt to replicate it again.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56731 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:12 am to
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throw out a stat that on the vast majority of play calls we have no receivers even running through the middle of the field


I've been bitching about this since the 2nd game.

Posted by Tdubs7
Member since Aug 2024
495 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:12 am to
and there are clowns on here that thought it was all Nuss after MVB came in and threw one seam route to Green while down 30+.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37748 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:39 am to
Not inaccurate but there were situations where MVB would make sense. At the bare minimum he could have been used to protect Nuss
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
1591 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:42 am to
So you’re saying that now since we have a HC that players want to play for and an OC who is not clueless, we’re going undefeated?

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