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NIL changed everything

Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:56 am
Posted by Flyingtiger82
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:56 am
The reason college football was so great was the loyalty the players, coaches and fans had for one common goal - to win. Win not just for pride in themselves but the university and/or State. Couple that with no athletes being able to transfer without sitting out and/or also not being paid played a huge role in “loyalty” to the program. Those college athletes didn’t quit and were hungry so they could play Sunday football one day. They’d given their entire blood, sweat, and tears to that program and when the band struck up the Alma mater, they sang.

NIL has changed all of that. The players now are hired mercenaries going to the team with the highest bidder. A lot of prima donnas who basically play because they get paid. I don’t blame these kids, but that is the result. There’s little cohesion as a team when the players are playing not to get hurt, and when the season’s goals become out of reach, they plainly quit and opt out. Quitters basically. Again for the money those guys make, I understand it. Kids being millionaires at 18 years old. How does one coach that?

College football is going have to implement serious contracts like the NFL does that hold these athletes to the team if they are taking funds for playing. Additionally, the coaching staff needs to have a more NFL-like model that understands how to deal with prima donnas and not old-school brute force.

Hypothetically speaking, what would happen if an athletes agent and a coach’s agent were the same? How would that impact a coach deciding to sit/bench a player? Or even talk about those players pre-season as if they were Heisman level? Until there becomes seriously more regulation by the NCAA and/or the SEC and/or college football, the parity is increased. How does one fix this? Implement contracts, and a draft? Implement trades and trade deadlines? Disallow sports agents from representing players and coaches on the same teams? If we are going to continue this Wild-West NIL landscape, I fear we will never see day-in-day-out powerhouses like we used to see. And if so, I don’t know if hiring the greatest coach in world will right the ship as much as it used to.

Downvote me all you want, but I think we need someone who understands NIL, who understands the NFL, and who understands our own personal football culture. Who is that? I don’t know. But I honestly didn’t think Nick Saban was a great hire when DiNardo had just beaten him in the Weedeater Bowl. I’ll leave that to the folks writing the checks. I just hope they understand the lay of the land, and if my dumbass can see it, I’m sure they can and then some.

Im thankful we got rid of the cancer that was Brian Kelly. Now let’s hope we don’t swap it for heart disease or something worse.
Posted by Coonass
Buckhead
Member since Sep 2005
2823 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:58 am to
And coaches need to throw out loyalty and play the best person.

Les Miles and Kelly suffered from the same, old-school way of thinking.

If Nuss was hurt or whatever, he should have been benched for a healthy kid playing better. If there is nobody on the bench who could play better, then that says more about the staff.

Kelly, like Miles, rode their allegiance to a Sr. QB into the ground. Those days are over. Or, should be.
Posted by Dan0eaux
Member since Jun 2023
657 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:00 am to
NIL was a horrible mistake, Unfortunately I don’t think the genie can be put back in the bottle. Ruined college football
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
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Member since Jun 2018
932 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:04 am to
Definitely a big factor, that and throwing $70-80-100 MILLION booster club dollars at every next new coaching candidate, sooner or later the outrageous salary escalation has to stop and incentives to win and graduate players has to take precedence. Raise them and pay them after they prove they are worthy of the LSU coaching job.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4914 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:16 am to
Yep, NIL and the Portal changed everything - and not for the better either.

All hail the rise of the "Brian Kelly wannabe" who exploit the bidding war for coaches, then after securing the coaching job, dials it in, gets fired, and walks away with millions.

Yawn
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62150 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:16 am to
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NIL was a horrible mistake


No it wasn’t.
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
4178 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:32 am to
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No it wasn’t.


It's ruined the sport and created a myriad of issues. If the fans wanted professional football, they'd watch the NFL.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62150 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:47 am to
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It's ruined the sport


No it hasn’t. And how can you justify making money off of people and not compensating them? Are you a communist?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19700 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:51 am to
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NIL was a horrible mistake, Unfortunately I don’t think the genie can be put back in the bottle. Ruined college football
agree - but NIL wasn't meant to be "pay for play."

It was to let a player do TV commercials, be on billboards, get a cut of jersey sales, etc.

But it immediately morphed into pay for play, with ZERO regulation. It became the wild west, and the immediate-play transfer portal means players can literally put themselves up for sale every year.

The game we all loved is gone.
Posted by ScotlandAve
Member since Dec 2024
335 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:52 am to
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The reason college football was so great was the loyalty the players, coaches and fans had for one common goal - to win.


You're wrong. LSU f-ed up b/c they gave a guy a $100 mil virtually guaranteed K with no forethought about NIL and the portal.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5343 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:57 am to
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No it hasn’t. And how can you justify making money off of people and not compensating them? Are you a communist?


Both can exist. The solution to the first problem caused the second problem. It has absolutely ruined the game of college football that we knew before it. That doesn't mean the universities making bank off the players' backs was right.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62150 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:59 am to
Ruined or changed? Line of a matter of opinion.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23887 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:03 am to
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Downvote me all you want, but I think we need someone who understands NIL, who understands the NFL, and who understands our own personal football culture. Who is that? I don’t know.


no one does. I do not think that most people understand the time coaches have to spend talking to NIL donors, their surrogates, etc. It's more than recruitment. They also have to schmooze the donors, ask for money in certain places and with certain kids that the donors will accept to be worthy of the business name. This, of course, means less time coaching.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5343 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:04 am to
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Ruined or changed? Line of a matter of opinion.


Ruined.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5459 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:27 am to
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But it immediately morphed into pay for play, with ZERO regulation. It became the wild west, and the immediate-play transfer portal means players can literally put themselves up for sale every year.

The game we all loved is gone.


Correct.

What is incredible to me is that so few recognized that the engine driving the entire college football economy was the rabid fans. It was the rabid fans who filled the stadiums, bought the merchandise, traveled with the teams, attended the bowls. Why were television networks willing to pay outlandish sums for broadcast rights, which then flowed to the conferences and ultimately the programs? Because the passionate fans would tune in religiously to watch the spectacle. Every cent flowing through college football can be traced back to the fans. Not the players. No fans, no money. Fewer devoted fans, less money. Now CFB has adopted a pay-for-play portal model which frays and erodes the emotional connection between the fans and the programs. I used to love recruiting and watching the underclassmen develop. I used to take pride in the players because they at least appeared to share my love and loyalty towards my alma mater, and in some cases truly did. Now many are petulant mercenaries, a temporary cast that can change from season to season or week to week. It not only undermines the fanbase's connection to the team, it also sabotages the overall quality of play. It really is becoming a mediocre, unseemly NFL minor league. Unless CFB takes steps to stabilize the game and protect the bond between the fans and the programs, it will continue to decline. Ultimately, if fan interest evaporates, the great rivers of money will as well.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 11:29 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41176 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:30 am to
The fricking portal has done far more damage to the sport from a fan perspective than NIL. Players were always paid, now it’s just above board.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2692 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:43 am to
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That doesn't mean the universities making bank off the players' backs was right.


What do the universities do with all this bank they make off the players’ backs?
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2479 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:46 am to
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The fricking portal has done far more damage to the sport from a fan perspective than NIL. Players were always paid, now it’s just above board.


This is the correct answer. Not having to sit out a year prevented the "Play me or I walk" free for all we're seeing now.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35521 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:46 am to
In the case of Kelly, I think losing out to Michigan on Underwood had a bigger effect than he let on. I think he recognized some key shortcomings in Nussmeier's game and he might have to pull him at some point. But Michigan threw a wrench into the mess. Sort of like Florida Marlins with Josh Booty back in 1994
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62150 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:57 am to
quote:

The fricking portal has done far more damage to the sport from a fan perspective than NIL. Players were always paid, now it’s just above board.


Correct.
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