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A hurricane finally forms in the Caribbean this year, and its due to climate change
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:00 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:00 am
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:01 am to stout
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:01 am to stout
Lololololololol
Gotta respect the hustle
Gotta respect the hustle
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:08 am to udtiger
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Gotta respect the hustle
They never miss an opportunity.
A hurricane is a weather event that occurs throughout recorded history. They do not occur because the climate is changing.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:16 am to stout
Weather scientists are more pitiful on their preseason predictions than preseason college football prognosticators.
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The 2025 Atlantic hurricane season is forecast to be above-normal, with predictions from NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) calling for 13 to 18 named storms, 5 to 9 hurricanes, and 2 to 5 major hurricanes. These forecasts are based on conditions like warmer-than-normal Atlantic waters, weaker trade winds, and a strong West African monsoon.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:19 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:one year this will be true and then the rest of these terrible predictions will be forgotten and the media will run the story 24/7 for the following 5 years
2025 Atlantic hurricane season is forecast to be above-normal, with predictions from NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) calling for 13 to 18 named storms, 5 to 9 hurricanes, and 2 to 5 major hurricanes. These forecasts are based on conditions like warmer-than-normal Atlantic waters, weaker trade winds, and a strong West African monsoon.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 8:20 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:24 am to stout
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1,687 tropical storm formations in the North Atlantic since 1851,
those damned '49ers - should have taken a boat around the horn rather than hitching up all those farting mules & oxen to drag their wagons to California.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:32 am to stout
The comments are golden :)
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:33 am to udtiger
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Gotta respect the hustle
I moved to Miami in 1968. They were always talking about eventually getting hit by "The Big One". I lived in South Florida 24 years before ever being effected by ANY hurricane - that being Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Hell, in 1990 not a single tropical storm even made landfall in the US.
There is no denyiong the increase in intensity of Atlantic Basin hurricanes over the past 5 decades.
Decade Hurricanes Major Hurricanes
1970's 51 16
1980's 52 17
1990's 64 25
2000's 74 36
2010's 72 30
2020-25 51 24
You tell me what fuels hurricanes if it isn't warmer sea surface temperatures.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:49 am to LSU82BILL
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You tell me what fuels hurricanes if it isn't warmer sea surface temperatures.
you tell me a time in earth's history when the sea surface temperatures were not changing.
as a matter of fact - we are just in the waning phases of the last ICE AGE
you tell me how to recover from an ice age without warming the seawater.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:49 am to LSU82BILL
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You tell me what fuels hurricanes if it isn't warmer sea surface temperatures.
I'm no conspiracy theorist by any stretch, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that we helped progress a few in the last couple decades by seeding. I'm also not going to claim this happened either.
Now, prove to me that humans are the reason for the warming.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:54 am to LSU82BILL
You know what’s also increased over the decades? Our ability to monitor and measure weather. It’s questionable if we’re experiencing stronger or more numerous events or if we’re just recording them more accurately.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:00 am to LSU82BILL
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You tell me what fuels hurricanes if it isn't warmer sea surface temperatures.
I asked ChatGPT to save us all some time
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1. The Basic Framework: The Saffir–Simpson Scale (1970s–Today)
1971: Civil engineer Herbert Saffir and meteorologist Robert Simpson developed the Saffir–Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale.
The scale categorized hurricanes (in the Atlantic and eastern Pacific) from Category 1 to 5, based only on sustained wind speed.
Category 1–2 = “Hurricanes” (minor to moderate)
Category 3–5 = “Major hurricanes” (severe to catastrophic)
Those thresholds haven’t changed since the 1970s:
Category Wind Speed (1-minute sustained)
1 74–95 mph (119–153 km/h)
2 96–110 mph (154–177 km/h)
3 111–129 mph (178–208 km/h)
4 130–156 mph (209–251 km/h)
5 =157 mph (=252 km/h)
2. What Has Changed: Measurement & Classification Practices
a. Improved Observation Tools
1970s–1980s: Relied on aircraft reconnaissance, ship reports, and sparse satellite imagery.
1990s–Present: Continuous geostationary satellite coverage, Doppler radar, and advanced aircraft instruments.
Result: More accurate wind and pressure estimates, often leading to reclassification (either up or down) after analysis.
b. Reanalysis Efforts
NOAA’s HURDAT2 database (the official Atlantic hurricane record) has undergone several reanalyses since the 2000s.
Many storms from the pre-satellite era were reclassified — e.g., some storms from the 1950s–70s that were once “tropical storms” are now listed as hurricanes, and vice versa.
c. Removal of Pressure & Surge from the Scale
Originally, the Saffir–Simpson scale included storm surge and central pressure estimates.
In 2010, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) simplified it: it now reflects only wind speed, because surge and pressure depend heavily on storm size, speed, and local geography.
3. Changing Definitions of “Major Hurricane”
The term “major hurricane” (Category 3+) has stayed consistent since its introduction.
However, the methods of estimating intensity changed — particularly with improved satellite-based Dvorak techniques in the 1980s and upgrades in the 2000s.
Consequently, the number of “major hurricanes” identified each decade may partly reflect better detection, not just climate change.
4. Summary of Classification Evolution
Era Key Change Impact
1970s Saffir–Simpson scale introduced Standardized 1–5 categories
1980s Satellite coverage expanded Improved identification of storms
1990s Dvorak method refined More consistent intensity estimates
2000s HURDAT2 reanalysis Historical storm reclassification
2010 Scale simplified to wind-only Clarified terminology, removed surge/pressure
In short, technology and they were going off of old data when they reclassified storms from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. There could have been more storms back then classified as major if we had the same tech then as we do now.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:18 am to stout
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There have been 1,687 tropical storm formations in the North Atlantic since 1851, but NBC Connecticut meteorologists want you to believe that the latest one is due to your Chevy Silverado's carbon footprint.
If they're going to blame pollution, why not blame it on where it's actually coming from?
China.
India.
The Middle East.
Emissions from private aircraft owned by elite politicians and Malthusian billionaires.
All the hot air expelled by Bill Gates.
All the methane pollution from the farting cows on The View.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:29 am to stout
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you tell me a time in earth's history when the sea surface temperatures were not changing
Where did I say I say they were not changing?
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Now, prove to me that humans are the reason for the warming.
Where did I say humans were the reasoning for the warming?
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You know what’s also increased over the decades? Our ability to monitor and measure weather. It’s questionable if we’re experiencing stronger or more numerous events or if we’re just recording them more accurately
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In short, technology and they were going off of old data when they reclassified storms from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. There could have been more storms back then classified as major if we had the same tech then as we do now.
I agree. Are you implying that while living in Miami from 1968-1992 without ever being impacted by a hurricane to 30 hurricanes making landfall in Florida since 1992 is a product of more accurate recording?
I know better than to even broach the cause of increased hurricane activity or intensity in this forum. I'm only commenting on my personal experiences living in Hurricane Alley for 57 years. The problem here is the OP misquoting a tweet as 'A hurricane finally forms in the Caribbean this year, and its due to climate change" when there isn't even a hurricane in the Caribbean at the moment. The tweet actually says "Climate change impacting Tropical Storm Melissa." But hey, let's just fire up the skeptics here all to eager to argue yet they have no interest in taking the time to read.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:31 am to stout
Nice knowing y’all.
This very well may be the end.
This very well may be the end.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:32 am to Homesick Tiger
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13 to 18 named storms
We are at 13 named storms currently.
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5 to 9 hurricanes
We are at 4 hurricanes currently, and when Melissa reaches hurricane status we will be at 5.
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and 2 to 5 major hurricanes
We are currently at 3 major hurricanes. Melissa will most likely make it 4.
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Weather scientists are more pitiful on their preseason predictions than preseason college football prognosticators.
Would you like to edit this?
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:34 am to stout
I’ve always just thrown pennies at climate alarmists, but the real kicker was when they were talking about the atmosphere being the hottest it’s been in 2,000 years. So what was the cause 2,000 years ago? Sport utility chariots?
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:36 am to stout
quote:the one on Jupiter is 200 years old and larger than the earth. How many Silverados are them baws driving?
the latest one is due to your Chevy Silverado's carbon footprint.
Jupiter truck nuts [on] off
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:38 am to LSU82BILL
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Are you implying that while living in Miami from 1968-1992 without ever being impacted by a hurricane
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to 30 hurricanes making landfall in Florida since 1992
So a 24 year period vs 33 and the truth is that the amount of hurricanes making landfall has not changed
You should try backing up your hyperbole with facts
Fact: The total number of landfalling hurricanes has not shown a clear upward trend when adjusted for long-term variability and detection improvements.
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