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If needed how would you handle to Kelly situation
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:17 pm
First of all it is a hypothetical situation.
Considering the $57 million buyout and the amount of money we need for NIL to stay competitive.
For me I would wait till the 2028 season. That would be after the 7th season and at that the buyout goes to 9.5 * 3 = 28.5 million.
But going forward from this point forward, all coaches hired should have their coaching contracts tied to Kelly's contract. So we limit the buyout to just the head coach.
Before that I am afraid it does not make financial sense.
I have been a fan of Kelly but you cannot lose to Vandy and be competitive in this league.
The problem with Kelly starts with
[1] Coaching evaluations: Matt House as an DC set us back defensively. Sloan simply is not ready for the OC role. Blake Baker, Corey Raymond were on EdO's last staff that he let go, only to hire them back. Brad Davis is someone he retained and see the line play
[2] Lack of physical play: If we cannot pick up 2 yards against Vandy at the goal line shows a lack of physical play. The lack of a running game shows the same. The fact that Ole Miss was rushing 3 and winning the line of scrimage shows that as well.
[3] Strength and Conditioning: We have too many people getting hurt, playing hurt. This lacks strength and conditioning. Tony Moffit was better than who he has now.......again coaching evaluations.
[4] Notre Dame plays 2-4 ranked teams and year and you could be a finesse team and get away with it. Against the upper echelons of the SEC, that will not cut it.
Considering the $57 million buyout and the amount of money we need for NIL to stay competitive.
For me I would wait till the 2028 season. That would be after the 7th season and at that the buyout goes to 9.5 * 3 = 28.5 million.
But going forward from this point forward, all coaches hired should have their coaching contracts tied to Kelly's contract. So we limit the buyout to just the head coach.
Before that I am afraid it does not make financial sense.
I have been a fan of Kelly but you cannot lose to Vandy and be competitive in this league.
The problem with Kelly starts with
[1] Coaching evaluations: Matt House as an DC set us back defensively. Sloan simply is not ready for the OC role. Blake Baker, Corey Raymond were on EdO's last staff that he let go, only to hire them back. Brad Davis is someone he retained and see the line play
[2] Lack of physical play: If we cannot pick up 2 yards against Vandy at the goal line shows a lack of physical play. The lack of a running game shows the same. The fact that Ole Miss was rushing 3 and winning the line of scrimage shows that as well.
[3] Strength and Conditioning: We have too many people getting hurt, playing hurt. This lacks strength and conditioning. Tony Moffit was better than who he has now.......again coaching evaluations.
[4] Notre Dame plays 2-4 ranked teams and year and you could be a finesse team and get away with it. Against the upper echelons of the SEC, that will not cut it.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:27 pm to mike4lsu
First step
Ban you from posting
Ban you from posting
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:51 pm to nicholastiger
Have some booster have every hooker in town go to his house
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:52 pm to mike4lsu
Firstly, fire whatever idiot guaranteed him $100mm.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:58 pm to mike4lsu
If you are looking to do it after this season, you have to give it to Baker for 4-5 years.
Paying BK is a sunk cost, so you play him his 50+ and let him go.
You then double Baker’s salary with a 4-5 year deal with incentives. That is about 15 more.
Baker can keep most of the staff with some changes, that limits the changes to about 10+ more.
So about 75 all in. And you might catch lightning in a bottle with Baker. If not, you start over around the original timeline of BKs contract.
Paying BK is a sunk cost, so you play him his 50+ and let him go.
You then double Baker’s salary with a 4-5 year deal with incentives. That is about 15 more.
Baker can keep most of the staff with some changes, that limits the changes to about 10+ more.
So about 75 all in. And you might catch lightning in a bottle with Baker. If not, you start over around the original timeline of BKs contract.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:45 pm to mike4lsu
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But going forward from this point forward,
Straight from The Department of Redundancy Department.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 12:11 am to CDawson
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Firstly, fire whatever idiot guaranteed him $100mm.
THIS is where the healing begins.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 12:30 am to mike4lsu
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Tony Moffit [sic] was better than who he has now
People too easily forget how harsh this board was shitting on Moffit the last few years he was here.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 12:32 am to mike4lsu
The Problem is going to be finding a new OC, especially if you are tying his contract to Kelly's
Posted on 10/24/25 at 2:57 am to mike4lsu
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$57 million buyout
Ok I’ve seen $50 million buyout, $53 million buyout, and you say $57 million buyout. Which is it? Does anybody actually know the exact amount?
Posted on 10/24/25 at 3:24 am to mike4lsu
It doesn’t matter unless the money men feel the same as the fans. The good thing about rich folk is that they don’t like to be made an arse of. And they’re kind of petty. They threw loads of money at Kelly to get him here, and last year, they threw even more at Kelly to buy players, thinking surely Kelly can take us to the heights we all seek if he were given the players he wanted.
The fact that we’re probably staring down a 7-5 season in year 4, after finding the number 1 transfer class and losing damn near all production after the season. Kelly’s going to find himself in a really tight spot and rich folks are petty. People think that BK wouldn’t be worried about being shown the door because of the money.
In 35 years of coaching, the man has never been fired. It would eat at him. His legacy(probably the most important thing to him) would be severely tarnished.
The fact that we’re probably staring down a 7-5 season in year 4, after finding the number 1 transfer class and losing damn near all production after the season. Kelly’s going to find himself in a really tight spot and rich folks are petty. People think that BK wouldn’t be worried about being shown the door because of the money.
In 35 years of coaching, the man has never been fired. It would eat at him. His legacy(probably the most important thing to him) would be severely tarnished.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 6:30 am to mike4lsu
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how would you handle to Kelly situation
It's impossible for anyone to comment intelligently on this without knowing the in's and out's of LSUs financial situation. Anyone saying otherwise (such as yourself) is just spewing bullshite
Posted on 10/24/25 at 6:34 am to mike4lsu
Find a hot sorority ho and pay her a million to seduce BK. Then can his arse for cause and promote Baker to interim till we found the right fit at LSU.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 6:56 am to bayouboo
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You then double Baker’s salary with a 4-5 year deal with incentives. That is about 15 more.
Baker can keep most of the staff with some changes, that limits the changes to about 10+ more.
Can we at least see if Baker can contain a legit mobile QB before giving kim the keys to the kingdom?
If Marcel Reed runs wild, again, this weekend, I'd want no part of Baker as head coach.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:14 am to mike4lsu
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Considering the $57 million buyout
That is not the number; it's 90% of his remaining compensation paid out monthly until the end of his contract period. So closer to 50 million than to 60.
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I have been a fan of Kelly but you cannot lose to Vandy and be competitive in this league.
Bama lost to Vandy last season. Mizzou took 2 OTs to beat them in Mizzou. This is not your dad's Vanderbilt. You need to pay attention.
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But going forward from this point forward, all coaches hired should have their coaching contracts tied to Kelly's contract. So we limit the buyout to just the head coach.
That will probably limit you from getting top coordinators. All the other staff are relatively cheap, except for some big-name analysts you may have on staff. It is a competitive world for coaches worth their salt.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:15 am to mike4lsu
And have crappy records two years in a row?
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:04 am to mike4lsu
Start with hiring a legit OC like Denbrock was
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:04 am to mike4lsu
Put him in a Piper Cub headed to North Carolina
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:05 am to bayouboo
quote:This is crazy. You aren't firing Kelly just to hire his DC who has had moderate success in his young career so far
If you are looking to do it after this season, you have to give it to Baker for 4-5 years.
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