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AI Radiology software outperforming Radiologists?
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:10 pm
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AI isn’t replacing Radiologists
A standard trope in Sc-Fi is the robot doctor. In Star Trek they have holographic doctors supplementing real ones. In the Star Wars universe, ALL medicine is done by robots. One wonders how far encroachment of AI into general medicine is.
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:12 pm to DesScorp
The programmers of AI will never accept the ultimate liability for their decisions or interpretation.
There always has to be a doctor to sue.
There always has to be a doctor to sue.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:12 pm to DesScorp
Radiologists don’t make $520K
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:14 pm to T1gerNate
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Radiologists don’t make $520K
They absolutely do you retard
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:15 pm to DesScorp
quote:Yeah. And while not AI, computer-aided detection / diagnosis software has been around for the decade the tweet points out. The same is true of anatomic pathology software outperforming pathologists at detecting cancerous tissue
AI Radiology software outperforming Radiologists?
quote:And is what our world will be for various legal and ethical reasons. Which is why we can't fire all of them
In Star Trek they have holographic doctors supplementing real ones
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:18 pm to DesScorp
I’m all for AI giving me advice and me choosing my course of action after AI ELI5. Especially on small things like “cold” or minor issues.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:21 pm to DesScorp
The tweet and post says models have outperformed radiologists yet cites nothing to prove that.
Link?
Link?
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:28 pm to Adam Banks
Because they haven't.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:31 pm to T1gerNate
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Radiologists don’t make $520K
Busy private practice probably average 600-700 at least
Roommate from med school is a rad and their salaries have jumped over last 10 years because the volume of medical imaging is increasing exponentially but volume of radiologists is basically flat
You can make a million with 12 weeks vacation if you look
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:33 pm to DesScorp
I’m sure it does better than the Indian radiologists they are using now.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:35 pm to FOBW
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I’m sure it does better than the Indian radiologists they are using now.
Final reports have to come from a US based and trained radiologist
But yeah a lot of the prelim india reports i get are absolute garbage
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:36 pm to DesScorp
I'm sick of people who don't have to use AI for their jobs spouting this shite.
AI as a tool or assistant to help you is great.
AI when trying to solve a problem is worthless.
My company has 4-5 different AI tools, one of them is for reading and extracting data from contracts. It cuts time substantially. However, it fricks up a lot. A simple prompt is all you need. "Give me XYZ data, summarize it, and tell me the page you found it." Then you go back and check to ensure that everything is good.
Anything else is basically useless. Even looking up guidance is useless. Often times the references are wrong, or worse they don't exist at all.
These tools are fantastic as an aid to human.
I love JRE when he has interesting guests on, but he might be the loudest and most out of touch person who speaks on AI as if it's the next coming of christ.
It's simply not there. I wish it was, I'm not against it. But honestly sometimes it seems like the AI tools we use are getting worse.
AI as a tool or assistant to help you is great.
AI when trying to solve a problem is worthless.
My company has 4-5 different AI tools, one of them is for reading and extracting data from contracts. It cuts time substantially. However, it fricks up a lot. A simple prompt is all you need. "Give me XYZ data, summarize it, and tell me the page you found it." Then you go back and check to ensure that everything is good.
Anything else is basically useless. Even looking up guidance is useless. Often times the references are wrong, or worse they don't exist at all.
These tools are fantastic as an aid to human.
I love JRE when he has interesting guests on, but he might be the loudest and most out of touch person who speaks on AI as if it's the next coming of christ.
It's simply not there. I wish it was, I'm not against it. But honestly sometimes it seems like the AI tools we use are getting worse.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:41 pm to DesScorp
As someone whose practice heavily invested in the AI algos craze the last several years I question if if it's even worth keeping it on board the amount of misses they make.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:43 pm to Odysseus32
AI is fantastic at doing mundane, extensive jobs with perfection exceeding any human. Something like reviewing 1,000s or 100,000s of fluoroscopy images a day and finding anomalies for further study. There’s that.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:44 pm to Pauvetibete
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I mean, do they?
I am intimately aware of most of the salaries of the all the radiologist salaries in my city and surrounding areas, and years I can say unequivocally that all the radiologist in my practice make that amount of money as base with most making significantly more with incentives
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:45 pm to Pauvetibete
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I mean, do they?
Those numbers are bullshite
A fulltime private practice radiologist is making at least 600k in 2025
Academic center might be more like 300-400
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:46 pm to DesScorp
Does this mean that we can no longer tell people who are at risk of losing their jobs to just "learn to radiology"?
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:47 pm to Cosmo
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Those numbers are bullshite
I have to believe they are counting part timers. There's a huge cohort of people doing part time teleradiology these days
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:49 pm to Odysseus32
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Anything else is basically useless.
So you don't think they will ever improve?
Part of what they do is learn from past mistakes.
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