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First World Problem: Why do websites need passwords anymore?

Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:01 am
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9469 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:01 am
Seems like 90% of the times I login to a website and type in my password, I have to check my e-mail, messages or put in a pass code from a separate app I had to download and register for. Even when I click 'remember this device' or 'register this device', I still have to do it every time I login. If this is the new standard, then just do away with passwords in general.

Old man rant over

Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9014 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:03 am to
It's 2 factor authentication and it's more secure. The first factor is your password. The second factor is the link or code.

It's not needed for something like posting on TD. But for anything that contains sensitive info (like banking info) it's much safer.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 11:06 am
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13027 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:03 am to
I get this when logging onto my bank, investment accounts, mortgage portal etc.

But 2-3 step verification to order a large meat lovers pizza is fricking insane.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12802 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:04 am to
It sucks.

People should be able to opt out of all that.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109386 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

I get this when logging onto my bank, investment accounts, mortgage portal etc.

But 2-3 step verification to order a large meat lovers pizza is fricking insane.


This
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23362 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:05 am to
quote:


It sucks.

People should be able to opt out of all that.


It's not that simple. Often we (IT pros) are required to enforce MFA for everything or risk failing an audit.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9469 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:07 am to
quote:

It's 2 factor authentication and it's more secure. The first factor is your password. The second factor is the link or code.


I know what it is, but it's ridiculous and overkill for many of the places I log in to. It should be optional, not mandatory. Let me decide how secure I want my logins to be.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12802 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:08 am to
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enforce MFA


well... it's Mother Fuggin Aggravating. That has to be what MFA stands for, right?
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27288 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:09 am to
I'd buy a beer for the man who came up with 2-factor authentication. (Not that it's a revolutionary idea)

I've had accounts hacked before, so I'll deal with the extra step needed to keep my shite secure.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27288 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:10 am to
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I know what it is, but it's ridiculous and overkill for many of the places I log in to. It should be optional, not mandatory. Let me decide how secure I want my logins to be.
Off the top of my head, pretty much every platform I use with a login let's me turn it off if I don't want it.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33782 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:12 am to
quote:

But 2-3 step verification to order a large meat lovers pizza is fricking insane.


Perhaps it's not about the pizza, but about your credit card info, phone number and home address?

Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23525 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:13 am to
Just wait until you have to Duo Mobile verify everything in your company, which adds an app to authenticate, and any number of authenticator apps for so many other sites.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23525 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:13 am to
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Perhaps it's not about the pizza, but about your credit card info, phone number and home address?




You could not store this info in the account. That is an option.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4220 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:17 am to
I just bought a "Windows Hello" compatible webcam thinking I was going to bypass some of the bullshite using biometrics. It works for Windows and maybe Google. That's it. Everyone else requires you save your passkey on another device, so it's a major PITA. I almost don't log into X anymore because I'm tired of having to log in using a secondary device EVERY SINGLE TIME. At some point it's not worth it.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119893 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:18 am to
What about youtube? On the app, I just go into the app and I am already logged, but if I am on my PC its different. I did set it up to be a secure log in, its supposed to send me a text when I go to long in, I approve the message and it logs in.. But sometimes it just logs in without sending a message, sometimes I have to get the notification sent 2 or 3 times.

I use face recognition on my PC, I wish that would automatically let me to log into all the sites I have accounts for.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12894 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:24 am to
Use a password manager like BitWarden. There are iOS and Android apps, too. I can't tell you what any of my passwords are except for Amazon and the Bitwarden master password.

Part of your issue, at least on mobile, is that developers are essentially forced to push "updates" every two weeks (which may do next to nothing) in order to keep their rankings in the app store. This is responsible for me getting logged out of my radar detector app and I only realize it after I've started driving, etc.

The "register this device" cookie that gets dropped on your system will probably only last for about 30 days.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13027 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Perhaps it's not about the pizza, but about your credit card info, phone number and home address?



cool..then allow me to checkout as a guest and save none of that. Some food apps only allow you to place an order from an account.
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
897 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 2:25 pm to
iPhone automatically giving you the verification code instead of having to type it is amazing though
Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
2044 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 2:27 pm to
Passwordless browsing is closer than you think. Once Secure Browser products are more streamlined, mainly next year, this will be more of a thing.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19740 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

But 2-3 step verification to order a large meat lovers pizza is fricking insane.
Because it involves a credit/debit card transaction.
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