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Isn’t our technology supposed to create an environment where less people have to work?

Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted by weagle1999
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:44 pm
I see breathless articles about ‘less people in the workforce’ or ‘why aren’t men in the workforce?’ etc. (oddly enough the articles are never broken down into more specific demographic categories)

Isn’t that what is supposed to be happening as tech advances? For example Ford could throw all its robots into Lake Michigan and go back to humans carrying panels around.

Tech hasn’t advanced enough to eliminate many white collar jobs, but the manual jobs should absolutely be going if long held predictions prove correct.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:50 pm to
If "work" was finite, sure. It's not.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:50 pm to
You can order from a kiosk at steak and shake if you are hungry
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:52 pm to
These predictions always take way longer to come true than expected.

People will predict that there will be 20% fewer white collar jobs in 5 years due to AI, and it might happen in 20 years.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
Somewhere lost in Texas
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:54 pm to
How is the majority of the people going to purchase anything without a job?

If no one has income how will manufacturers sell their goods?


Is the government going to give out money to every citizen weekly or monthly?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:58 pm to
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How is the majority of the people going to purchase anything without a job?

The question nobody can answer. Who is going to buy the company's products that's run by AI?

The government is never going to give you a middle class lifestyle. They might keep you from starving to death in some public housing slum
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 3:58 pm to
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If "work" was finite, sure. It's not.


Most sectors don’t have infinite work available though.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:08 pm to
Tech frees up labor for other tasks.

IC engine killed a lot of jobs but created many times more

Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1583 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:13 pm to
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Tech frees up labor for other tasks.


So tech is freeing us up to continue to work just as much as before?

Posted by XanderCrews
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:16 pm to
Price of tomorrow: Jeff Booth
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:19 pm to
Strangely, we simultaneously need to import more foreign workers and also have universal basic income because technology is taking all the jobs and turning us into a consumer society.

It’s quite the conundrum.

Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:22 pm to
Might not need a cashier to take the order, but someone needs to be able to fix the kiosk when it breaks.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:27 pm to
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So tech is freeing us up to continue to work just as much as before?


Its called productivity.

And yes, the sole goal of capitalism is endless productivity via efficiency. And rather than find peace we will create our own need to produce more with all "extra time." We will fill the time with more work until, that too we can make more efficient.

And such is the meaningless human cycle.

I'm not anti- capitalist by any means, but its only goal is efficiency, and that is as much a problem for man's soul as are the end goals of other systems. It's still the best one...probably.... but there is only meaninglessness at its end.
Posted by CalcuttaTigah
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:41 pm to
How will the government give any money if there is nobody making wages and paying income taxes?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39153 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Isn’t that what is supposed to be happening as tech advances?


No, generally, the pattern has been that labor gets reoriented around that new industry. AI seems to promise that it can even replace that, but I am skeptical. The entire AI drive seems more about getting funding than it does about actually producing something. The AI products I've used have been mostly annoying.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:57 pm to
Technology is highly unadaptable. It can do what it is programmed to do, but as soon as some variable or problem arises, you're shite out of luck relying on just tech. Humans are far more adaptable to handle any situation that arises. Tech at least today has zero ability to adapt. ChatGPT is also highly inaccurate. It makes a shite ton of mistake.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 4:58 pm
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3453 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:03 pm to
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Is the government going to give out money to every citizen weekly or monthly?


Yes. You've just redefined Universal Basic Income.

It is the cornerstone of the theoretical "utopian" era, where there are fewer jobs than there are people. So, those who cannot or choose to not work will get enough money to live a modest life.

Those who can provide value in this world would get more money and thus get to live a more luxurious lifestyle in return.

Again, all theoretical and we are not nearly there, but we are inching closer and closer to that reality.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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194175 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:03 pm to
still need cheap labor for picking avacados
Posted by YeastExtract
Member since Jul 2021
406 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:57 pm to
We all thought “automation” twelve years ago would have everyone out of a job. Didn’t really come to fruition like we had imagined. Probably going to be a similar outcome with AI.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
2295 posts
Posted on 7/19/25 at 6:02 pm to


Technology has made manual labor a lot safer by replacing humans with machines where applicable. Technology will never fully replace human labor.
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