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Aftermath at Gettysburg

Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:31 pm
I am reading a free Kindle book from Amazon about burying the dead, caring for the wounded, dealing with the tourists and clearing out the debris from the battle.

A strange and blighted land
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:33 pm to
South took a chance and it didn't pan out. With Vicksburg falling as well, it was over.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17946 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:35 pm to
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South took a chance and it didn't pan out
“General I have no division.”
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69143 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:40 pm to
The craziest thing is that if the South wins decisively at Gettysburg, the war is likely over in a matter of weeks if not days. Lee went all-in, and went bust.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12109 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:42 pm to
A friend of mine from Marksville wrote that book.

I worked with him at USL in the 70's.
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He wrote sixteen books and a dozen scholarly articles on Gettysburg and the Civil War. His A Strange and Blighted Land. Gettysburg: The Aftermath of a Battle was voted #12 in the Top 50 Civil War Books ever written. Greg died at age 62 in February of 2009.

LINK
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
267 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:44 pm to
You should read,”This Republic of Suffering” it’s about how North and South dealt with the overwhelming death toll of the Civil War and it also discusses the aftermath of the battles and citizens of those areas handled burials and cleanup.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:47 pm to
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The craziest thing is that if the South wins decisively at Gettysburg, the war is likely over in a matter of weeks if not days. Lee went all-in, and went bust.


The south never was going to win the war.

As the great Shelby Foote said, “the north fought that entire war with one hand behind its back. If the south had won at Gettysburg, the north would have pulled out that other arm”
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8076 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:52 pm to
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if the South wins decisively at Gettysburg, the war is likely over in a matter of weeks if not days


Is this true?
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
36595 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:55 pm to
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South took a chance and it didn't pan out. With Vicksburg falling as well, it was over.


Yep

Think of a stool with 3 legs

Gettysburg and Vicksburg both getting chopped off within days of each other

It was all over after that
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70776 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:59 pm to
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the north fought that entire war with one hand behind its back. If the south had won at Gettysburg, the north would have pulled out that other arm”


In what manner did the North have a hand tied back?
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12109 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:01 pm to
"As the great Shelby Foote said"
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Loved to hear him speak.
Posted by LSUFootballLover
BR
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:04 pm to
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The craziest thing is that if the South wins decisively at Gettysburg, the war is likely over in a matter of weeks if not days. Lee went all-in, and went bust.


In a fun game of what if, do you think we would still have 2 countries had Lee won?

I think no, the South didn’t have industry, infrastructure to remain independent.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69143 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:15 pm to
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Is this true?


There was no other Union army between Gettysburg and Washington, and no other army close enough to arrive in time. The Union peace movement was gaining strength in the polls, and Lincoln’s re-election was in jeopardy. A Southern army, freshly resupplied from the depot at Gettysburg, would have been besieging Washington just days after the battle. While realistically, Lee likely would not be capable of breaking the defenses before Union reinforcements could be mustered, politically, the Union likely signs a peace treaty to avoid a bloody siege, possibly even involving a coup against Lincoln.
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41561 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:51 pm to
Lee won huge victories at Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville in the months prior to Gettysburg ; yet he couldn’t lay siege to DC.

Unless Lee destroyed Meade’s army he wasn’t going to lay siege to DC.

Now politically Lincoln may have had to cut a peace deal, but a win at Gettysburg that wasn’t the destruction of Meade’s army wasn’t good enough.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42901 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:57 pm to
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In what manner did the North have a hand tied back?


Dumbass arse leaders in the field to start the war, maybe?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3329 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:12 pm to
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The craziest thing is that if the South wins decisively at Gettysburg, the war is likely over in a matter of weeks if not days.

I doubt it. Had Lee won, he still would've suffered enourmous losses that he would have to recover from. He wouldn't have been able to march on DC immediately. That would've given the Union the time they needed to reconstitute a defense of the capital.

Not to mention Bragg's (Longstreet's) failure to eliminate Rosecrans' Army at Chickamauga later that summer. Chattanooga falling at the end of 1863 spelled the end of the Confederacy as it was open ground from there to Atlanta.

Combined with the fall of Vicksburg, the body of the Confederacy was being sliced and diced behind Lee's Army of Virginia.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69103 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:13 pm to
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The craziest thing is that if the South wins decisively at Gettysburg, the war is likely over in a matter of weeks if not days.


Doubtful.

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9803 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:18 pm to
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As the great Shelby Foote said, “the north fought that entire war with one hand behind its back. If the south had won at Gettysburg, the north would have pulled out that other arm”


Is this when the rich people would start sending their children to fight in the war instead of immigrants right off the ships?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:31 pm to
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The craziest thing is that if the South wins decisively at Gettysburg, the war is likely over in a matter of weeks if not days


The Confederacy was split in half at the same time. The western Union armies were beginning to overrun those states with relative ease by this point. They were never going to win.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69143 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:59 pm to
You know the say “when seconds count, the police are minutes away”. It’s like that. The confederacy doesn’t have to take and hold Washington to win. Congress was very split on supporting/opposing the war. Lincoln’s opponent in the upcoming election was running on a platform of peace. If the Confederacy takes Washington, the Union will give them peace. The Confederacy could never win a protracted total war of attrition, but they didn’t need to do that to win. They just needed to be a substantial enough threat to Washington to make peace more politically viable than war.

Lee’s army crushing the Union at Gettysburg and arriving at the gates of Washington to face a well-dug in but green Union army with those Western reinforcements months away, would likely force a treaty long before the Anaconda Plan could win. A win by Lee at Gettysburg would put the Confederacy “seconds” away from victory while the only armies capable of truly defeating them would be “minutes” away. The confederacy didn’t have to actually sack Washington to get the political victory they desired.
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