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July rate cut from Fed is 'now completely off the table' following solid jobs report

Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:00 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:00 am
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The odds of a rate cut at the Federal Reserve's next meeting evaporated after a resilient jobs report for June alleviated concerns about a slowing US economy.

"You are not getting a July rate cut — that is now completely off the table," Joe Brusuelas, RSM chief economist, told Yahoo Finance.

Traders agree with that assessment. On Thursday morning, the odds of a cut at the Fed's July 28-29 meeting fell near 5% from nearly 25%, according to the CME FedWatch tool.

"The markets are speaking," Interactive Brokers chief strategist Steve Sosnick added. He told Yahoo Finance the likelihood of a Fed cut was "evaporating" in the aftermath of the latest labor market report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The report showed the US economy added 147,000 nonfarm payrolls in June, more than the 106,000 expected by economists. The unemployment rate unexpectedly fell to 4.1%. Economists had expected the unemployment rate to move higher to 4.3%.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
50822 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:10 am to
Massive hiring by local and state governments is interesting. Wonder if they are scooping up all the laid off federal workers
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3440 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:10 am to
I’m in the middle of building a house and really need the rates to drop. For years the rates were low even before covid so I’m not understanding why they are not going back to pre covid rates??
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
50822 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:13 am to
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so I’m not understanding why they are not going back to pre covid rates??


High inflation up until recently, history says it was be a very slow set of steps downward
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2181 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:13 am to
Have you saw inflation??? Prices of homes???

People artificially afforded these bc payments were lower with lower rates, and owners jacked up prices accordingly.

Also that would bring savings, cd rates down as well (someone correct mention wrong here)
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133447 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:14 am to
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Joe Brusuelas, RSM chief economist,
I believe he may be suffering from 24 hour news cycle bias.

If the July report of inflation numbers for June come in with the year-over-year number drifting down to near 2.0% I believe the Fed will ease by .25% in spite of the labor numbers.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35329 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:16 am to
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I’m in the middle of building a house and really need the rates to drop. For years the rates were low even before covid so I’m not understanding why they are not going back to pre covid rates??
Covid wasn’t cheap.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18771 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 10:19 am to
House sales in June are going to be horrific.

Believe May was down 14% vs April.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:00 am to
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June come in with the year-over-year number drifting down to near 2.0


Powell said it's still around 2.3%. I'm sure he'd like it to dip below 2 before cutting.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18583 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:15 am to
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Have you saw inflation??? Prices of homes??? People artificially afforded these bc payments were lower with lower rates, and owners jacked up prices accordingly. Also that would bring savings, cd rates down as well (someone correct mention wrong here)


I could not give two fricks about the 3.6% I’m getting in my money market and HYSA.

I would love to refi my mortgage and not pay 43k a year in interest.

If I had a paid off house I’d want the higher rate on my savings

Come on BBB! Need that salt tax raised.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 11:22 am
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38420 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:22 am to
Anyone pushing for rate cuts is just a moron at this point. I wish Trump would just STFU about it.

Dollar is already crashing
Job reports are solid
Economy/Stocks are solid
Inflation is ticking back up

Rate cuts should be used in times of need. We are not in a time of need. We are in a time of excess and riches.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:43 am to
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so I’m not understanding why they are not going back to pre covid rates??
From the time of the financial crisis until pre-covid, weak demand was really a thing. No longer.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2181 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:52 am to
We do realize lower rates mean the economy isn’t doing so well, right?

43k in interest? If that’s your tax bracket , you shouldn’t be worried about rates lol.

If you can afford that, you shoulda been saving up for 5-10 years and buying a house in cash.

Scale down your lifestyle a bit and you won’t have to worry about 3-4 points in a rate swing
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 11:54 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25835 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:13 pm to
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If I had a paid off house I’d want the higher rate on my savings


All about your situation. I am currently in this camp it’s nice to be able to make a couple thousand a month in interest and have 100% security of principle.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26814 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:17 pm to
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I’m in the middle of building a house and really need the rates to drop.


I'm actually on the opposite end. I sold my house a year ago, and am renting. Im going to buy a house this coming spring. I'm pulling for inventory to continue to rise and prices to drop.

Right now, inventory is high and houses are sitting on the market for extended periods. Prices are starting to drop. Right now, a lot of homeowners are holding their ground and not giving into the idea that their house is not worth what it was a year ago. Gradually, asking prices are coming down. I saw two similar houses next door to each other and one was priced 20% less than the other. That was a few months ago. The cheaper one sold in a few weeks and the more expensive one still hasn't come down and is still on the market...

Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18583 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:22 pm to
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All about your situation. I am currently in this camp it’s nice to be able to make a couple thousand a month in interest and have 100% security of principle.


I was loving the 5% rates when I had my 2.6% rate for my house in BR. Now that I have a 6.35% rate things have changed


Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57722 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:04 pm to
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For years the rates were low even before covid so I’m not understanding why they are not going back to pre covid rates??


Because rates aren't raised/lowered based on housing prices, they are raised/lowered to stimulate or temper economic activity. Along with that, the pre-COVID rates were historically low and led to a spike in real estate prices/values.

You raise rates or hold them steady when the economy is doing well, you lower them when the economy has a downturn. Currently, most economic indicators are strong so lowering rates would be to invite the return of increasing inflation.

Current thinking is that we will likely get a cut in September, but that's largely based on an expected slowdown which still hasn't materialized (the other part is that it's based on a lot of debt coming up for refinancing so lowering rates would mean lowering servicing costs on federal debt).
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2877 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:09 pm to
The housing market will continue to struggle. New home starts are almost non existent. Construction industry is really struggling the past year.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57722 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Right now, inventory is high and houses are sitting on the market for extended periods. Prices are starting to drop. Right now, a lot of homeowners are holding their ground and not giving into the idea that their house is not worth what it was a year ago. Gradually, asking prices are coming down. I saw two similar houses next door to each other and one was priced 20% less than the other. That was a few months ago. The cheaper one sold in a few weeks and the more expensive one still hasn't come down and is still on the market...


I have the feeling the housing market is going to be working this out for a long time. Those low pre-inflation rates allowed a LOT of people to get into homes they couldn't afford now (due to both the increases in value and interest rates), meaning they can't really afford to sell unless they have no other choice (like moving or going through bankruptcy) or they are willing to downsize considerably.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135293 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:39 pm to
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Massive hiring by local and state governments is interesting. Wonder if they are scooping up all the laid off federal workers


Probably, but keeping govt workers is bad for taxpayers
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