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Put me in charge of college football
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:09 pm
It’s the off-season, so perfect time for an off-season thread. I don’t doubt that most of us are disappointed in what college football has become. Super conferences that destroy traditional rivalries, playoffs that reward teams for losing their biggest games, the end of the pretense of amateurism, and endless transfer portal shenanigans resulting in a world where there are no enforceable contracts and no salary cap. It seems we are living in the worst of all worlds.
Some wish we could go back to the BCS, some want to see the super conferences break away from the rest, others seek to eliminate the FCS/FBS split. Let me propose my model for what college football should be:
1. Players don’t get paid.
2. Players can be drafted to the NFL straight out of high school.
3. Players who go to college must stay for three years before they can go pro.
4. You get one free transfer. All other transfers require you to sit out a year.
5. There is a transfer window that lasts for three weeks which ends before National Signing Day.
6. FCS and FBS teams will no longer play each other in the regular season.
7. All conferences will have the same number of teams, play the same number of games, and no conference championship games.
8. 10 conferences each with 10 teams. Any teams that don’t make the cut are bumped down to FCS. Every conference plays 9 conference games. Teams play 3 OOC games. Conferences are designed to be regional and maintain traditional rivalries. Teams are permitted to schedule one OOC permanent rivalry game if they desire to do so.
9. Notre Dame MUST join a conference. There are no independents.
10. 8 team Playoff is seeded AFTER bowl games, which are played based on traditional bowl tie-ins. You must win your bowl game to make the playoff. Winning your conference AND bowl game guarantees a playoff spot. First round of playoffs are at home stadium of higher seeded team. Bowl games could be played thanksgiving weekend instead of new years, but not necessarily.
Conferences could be split up like so:
ACC
Florida St
GA Tech
South Carolina
Clemson
UNC
Duke
NC St
Wake
UVA
V-Tech
Big East
Miami
Rutgers
Maryland
UCONN
Pitt
West Virginia
Syracuse
Boston College
Notre Dame
Penn State
Big 10
Ohio State
Indiana
Purdue
Michigan
Michigan St
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Big 8
Oklahoma
Okie State
Kansas
K-State
Iowa State
Mizzou
Nebraska
Colorado
Colorado State
Air Force
Southwest
Texas
Tex Tech
Baylor
Tex A&M
Rice
Arkansas
SMU
TCU
UTEP
New Mexico
Pac 10
USC
UCLA
CAL
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon St
Wazzou
Washington
Arizona
Ariz St
Mountain West
Hawaii
San Diego St
Fresno St
Boise St
Utah
BYU
Nevada
UNLV
Wyoming
Utah St/San Jose St
SEC
LSU
Miss St
Ole Miss
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tenn
Vandy
Kent
American
Army
Navy
Cincinnati
Louisville
Marshal
Memphis
Temple
UCF
USF
ECU
Sunbelt
La Tech
ULL
Tulane
So Miss
UAB
Troy
Arkansas St
Tulsa
Coastal
App St
The BCS Bowls would be the ones that largely decide who is in the playoff.
Rose would still be Big 10 vs Pac 10
Sugar would be SEC vs Southwest
Orange would be Big East vs at large
Fiesta could be Mountain West vs at large
Peach would be ACC vs American
Cotton would be Big 8 vs Sunbelt
In the end, the playoff would be 4 conference champs who won their bowl games, and the next 4 highest ranked teams that won their bowl games.
The “eye test” would only apply for at-large bowl game bids and for seeding the last 4 teams in the playoffs after the bowl games. Every team in college football would start the season with a clear path to the playoff within their control. Strength of schedule would still matter for playoff seeding. Regular season games still matter. Bowls matter. Teams get rewarded with home playoff games. Regional rivalries are mostly protected.
This system would not he perfect, and the money forces in the game have no motivation to allow anything like this to happen, but I would like to hear your thoughts.
Some wish we could go back to the BCS, some want to see the super conferences break away from the rest, others seek to eliminate the FCS/FBS split. Let me propose my model for what college football should be:
1. Players don’t get paid.
2. Players can be drafted to the NFL straight out of high school.
3. Players who go to college must stay for three years before they can go pro.
4. You get one free transfer. All other transfers require you to sit out a year.
5. There is a transfer window that lasts for three weeks which ends before National Signing Day.
6. FCS and FBS teams will no longer play each other in the regular season.
7. All conferences will have the same number of teams, play the same number of games, and no conference championship games.
8. 10 conferences each with 10 teams. Any teams that don’t make the cut are bumped down to FCS. Every conference plays 9 conference games. Teams play 3 OOC games. Conferences are designed to be regional and maintain traditional rivalries. Teams are permitted to schedule one OOC permanent rivalry game if they desire to do so.
9. Notre Dame MUST join a conference. There are no independents.
10. 8 team Playoff is seeded AFTER bowl games, which are played based on traditional bowl tie-ins. You must win your bowl game to make the playoff. Winning your conference AND bowl game guarantees a playoff spot. First round of playoffs are at home stadium of higher seeded team. Bowl games could be played thanksgiving weekend instead of new years, but not necessarily.
Conferences could be split up like so:
ACC
Florida St
GA Tech
South Carolina
Clemson
UNC
Duke
NC St
Wake
UVA
V-Tech
Big East
Miami
Rutgers
Maryland
UCONN
Pitt
West Virginia
Syracuse
Boston College
Notre Dame
Penn State
Big 10
Ohio State
Indiana
Purdue
Michigan
Michigan St
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Big 8
Oklahoma
Okie State
Kansas
K-State
Iowa State
Mizzou
Nebraska
Colorado
Colorado State
Air Force
Southwest
Texas
Tex Tech
Baylor
Tex A&M
Rice
Arkansas
SMU
TCU
UTEP
New Mexico
Pac 10
USC
UCLA
CAL
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon St
Wazzou
Washington
Arizona
Ariz St
Mountain West
Hawaii
San Diego St
Fresno St
Boise St
Utah
BYU
Nevada
UNLV
Wyoming
Utah St/San Jose St
SEC
LSU
Miss St
Ole Miss
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tenn
Vandy
Kent
American
Army
Navy
Cincinnati
Louisville
Marshal
Memphis
Temple
UCF
USF
ECU
Sunbelt
La Tech
ULL
Tulane
So Miss
UAB
Troy
Arkansas St
Tulsa
Coastal
App St
The BCS Bowls would be the ones that largely decide who is in the playoff.
Rose would still be Big 10 vs Pac 10
Sugar would be SEC vs Southwest
Orange would be Big East vs at large
Fiesta could be Mountain West vs at large
Peach would be ACC vs American
Cotton would be Big 8 vs Sunbelt
In the end, the playoff would be 4 conference champs who won their bowl games, and the next 4 highest ranked teams that won their bowl games.
The “eye test” would only apply for at-large bowl game bids and for seeding the last 4 teams in the playoffs after the bowl games. Every team in college football would start the season with a clear path to the playoff within their control. Strength of schedule would still matter for playoff seeding. Regular season games still matter. Bowls matter. Teams get rewarded with home playoff games. Regional rivalries are mostly protected.
This system would not he perfect, and the money forces in the game have no motivation to allow anything like this to happen, but I would like to hear your thoughts.
This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 1:11 pm
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Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:26 pm to kingbob
No
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:31 pm to More beer please
I would like to undo super conference alignments and bring back traditional bowls.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:32 pm to kingbob
No
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:38 pm to kingbob
You spent way too much time on this. Your designs can’t fight the capitalist freight train.
College sports are doomed. And as an Aggie that was never going to win, I’m starting to be fine with that. We will probably win a football title when it is entirely irrelevant with a roster full of
Illiterate transfers that the oilfield tycoons are funding.
College sports are doomed. And as an Aggie that was never going to win, I’m starting to be fine with that. We will probably win a football title when it is entirely irrelevant with a roster full of
Illiterate transfers that the oilfield tycoons are funding.
This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:42 pm to kingbob
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:57 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
ollege sports are doomed. And as an Aggie that was never going to win, I’m starting to be fine with that. We
I’m just glad UGA got theirs before it all went to shite
Posted on 6/28/25 at 2:56 pm to kingbob
Better than what we have.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:01 pm to kingbob
Regional Pairing System
Each Power Conference (P5) absorbs G5/FCS regional conferences based on a regional tiered grouping. Example below being that SEC now owns SBC/SLC and runs them as part of their organization. Just assume most of the rules below also apply between Tier 2 and Tier 3 in terms of relegation and promotion (it was written to only be P5 and G5)
SEC | SunBelt | Southland
Relegation (SEC / SBC / SLC)
- Bottom 2 SEC teams each year (based on conference record + strength-of-schedule tiebreakers) are relegated to the SBC.
- Relegated teams retain full SEC media shares for 2 years after relegation, then reduced to 75% if not re-promoted.
Promotion (SLC / SBC / SEC)
- Top 2 SBC teams (champion + highest-ranked at-large via CFP Committee-style formula) earn promotion to the SEC.
- Promoted teams receive a partial media share in Year 1 (e.g. 25%), increasing to full share if they remain in the SEC for 3 consecutive seasons.
- Must meet competitive standards (e.g. average Sagarin rating, facilities audit) to qualify for promotion.
Financial Framework
- P5 Safety Net Fund: A revenue-sharing buffer sourced from the playoff pot + streaming rights protects relegated teams.
- TV Deals Adjusted Dynamically: Networks retain rights to follow legacy brands, even if relegated, with promotional bonuses for Cinderella stories.
- New Rivalries: Natural geography-based relegation creates fresh matchups with built-in historical and cultural flavor—imagine Arkansas vs. Louisiana carrying stakes beyond bragging rights.
Competitive Incentives
- Relegated P5 teams become "hunters", incentivized to reinvest and climb back.
- G5 programs get real access to top-tier football via performance, not just politics.
- Coaching contracts evolve: retention bonuses for promotion, buyout clauses triggered by relegation, etc.
Stability + Mobility Balance
To avoid wild year-to-year swings:
- 3-year promotion window: Teams must finish top 4 in two of three years to solidify P5 status long-term.
- Play-in Game Option: For closely ranked P5 and G5 bubble teams, a neutral-site matchup could determine promotion—like a college version of the EPL’s Championship Playoff Final.
CFB Playoffs/Postseason
- Only tier 1 schools can play for national championship
- Top of tier 2 will play bowl games against bottom of tier 1 for promotion/relegation
-Top of tier 3 plays bottom of tier 2 for promotion/relegation.
-All other bowl games will be best non-playoff teams playing other regional conferences (T1 vs T1; T2 vs T2)
Each Power Conference (P5) absorbs G5/FCS regional conferences based on a regional tiered grouping. Example below being that SEC now owns SBC/SLC and runs them as part of their organization. Just assume most of the rules below also apply between Tier 2 and Tier 3 in terms of relegation and promotion (it was written to only be P5 and G5)
SEC | SunBelt | Southland
Relegation (SEC / SBC / SLC)
- Bottom 2 SEC teams each year (based on conference record + strength-of-schedule tiebreakers) are relegated to the SBC.
- Relegated teams retain full SEC media shares for 2 years after relegation, then reduced to 75% if not re-promoted.
Promotion (SLC / SBC / SEC)
- Top 2 SBC teams (champion + highest-ranked at-large via CFP Committee-style formula) earn promotion to the SEC.
- Promoted teams receive a partial media share in Year 1 (e.g. 25%), increasing to full share if they remain in the SEC for 3 consecutive seasons.
- Must meet competitive standards (e.g. average Sagarin rating, facilities audit) to qualify for promotion.
Financial Framework
- P5 Safety Net Fund: A revenue-sharing buffer sourced from the playoff pot + streaming rights protects relegated teams.
- TV Deals Adjusted Dynamically: Networks retain rights to follow legacy brands, even if relegated, with promotional bonuses for Cinderella stories.
- New Rivalries: Natural geography-based relegation creates fresh matchups with built-in historical and cultural flavor—imagine Arkansas vs. Louisiana carrying stakes beyond bragging rights.
Competitive Incentives
- Relegated P5 teams become "hunters", incentivized to reinvest and climb back.
- G5 programs get real access to top-tier football via performance, not just politics.
- Coaching contracts evolve: retention bonuses for promotion, buyout clauses triggered by relegation, etc.
Stability + Mobility Balance
To avoid wild year-to-year swings:
- 3-year promotion window: Teams must finish top 4 in two of three years to solidify P5 status long-term.
- Play-in Game Option: For closely ranked P5 and G5 bubble teams, a neutral-site matchup could determine promotion—like a college version of the EPL’s Championship Playoff Final.
CFB Playoffs/Postseason
- Only tier 1 schools can play for national championship
- Top of tier 2 will play bowl games against bottom of tier 1 for promotion/relegation
-Top of tier 3 plays bottom of tier 2 for promotion/relegation.
-All other bowl games will be best non-playoff teams playing other regional conferences (T1 vs T1; T2 vs T2)
This post was edited on 6/28/25 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:14 pm to kingbob
No, because you waste time on stupid shite like this.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:21 pm to kingbob
quote:
. Players can be drafted to the NFL straight out of high school
NFL rule
Posted on 6/28/25 at 3:23 pm to kingbob
quote:
Players don’t get paid.
Only made it this far, you’re fired
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:20 pm to kingbob
quote:
American
Louisville
Get the frick outta here
Posted on 6/28/25 at 4:23 pm to kingbob
quote:
This system would not he perfect, and the money forces in the game have no motivation to allow anything like this to happen, but I would like to hear your thoughts.
Your thoughts were bad enough….
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:31 pm to kingbob
quote:
1. Players don’t get paid
Good luck in court.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:00 pm to cardswinagain
Where would you rather be put? How would you arrange conferences?
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:00 pm to Clark14
Well, what would you do instead?
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:02 pm to kingbob
I don’t hate most of what you’re saying, although I think players should be made employees of the university and paid.
But having these matchups as guaranteed playoff birth games:
Is unfair to the other schools and disproportionately beneficial to the ACC and Big 8
But having these matchups as guaranteed playoff birth games:
quote:
Peach would be ACC vs American
Cotton would be Big 8 vs Sunbelt
Is unfair to the other schools and disproportionately beneficial to the ACC and Big 8
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:10 pm to kingbob
you're trying to stop a snowball rolling downhill
Posted on 6/28/25 at 6:34 pm to kingbob
Psstt, the Liberal NCAA who threatened to take away NCAA Basketball Tournament games from North Car. teams if a Bathroom Bill was not revoked, were IN CAHOOTS with Lawyers who JUDGE SHOPPED and probably bribed Judges.
All the NCAA had to do to defeat those punks were say, OK smart Lawyer boys and lib. Judges, from now on no one will get scholarships, and kids must pay their own way, and if any team back door pays they will l be placed on severe probation.
In 5 minutes those Lawyers would have backed down, how many black kids get a free education via scholarships?
All the NCAA had to do to defeat those punks were say, OK smart Lawyer boys and lib. Judges, from now on no one will get scholarships, and kids must pay their own way, and if any team back door pays they will l be placed on severe probation.
In 5 minutes those Lawyers would have backed down, how many black kids get a free education via scholarships?
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