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The game was called well.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:19 am
I know this isn’t popular here. But it was. Yes, the strike zone was tight, it was a MLB strike zone but it went both ways. The Dickinson play was correct. He did move his elbow into it. It was frustrating at the time, but the correct call according to the rules. The play at first base was unfortunate as well, the ump at 1st couldn’t have done anything differently. Extremely unfortunate but just one of those freak situations. I thought the game was called well and hope it will be called well again today. Go Tiger!
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:24 am to SelaTiger
Wrong-Dickinson didn’t lean into home plate
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:25 am to SelaTiger
Strikezone was perfect
I will never agree with the rule on the HBP though. Bad rule, dumb rule… The intent and “spirit” of the rule was not to eliminate HBP’s like that one to Dickinson. it should only apply if you throw a body part toward the plate/strikezone… stupid that it applies in that situation when you pull your body away from the strikezone into your own body and can’t even see the ball. And if it’s clearly ball 4 and you get hit in the batters box it should be ball4.
And that should not be a reviewable play. Review trying to “interpret” batters intention is dumb. While I understand trying to eliminate people getting intentionally hit, they’ve gone overboard/too far the other direction in applying that.
And when the ball hits an umpire the umps should have the ability/discretion to award an extra base
So to your point… yes the game was called well per the rules but some of the rules might need some tweaking
I will never agree with the rule on the HBP though. Bad rule, dumb rule… The intent and “spirit” of the rule was not to eliminate HBP’s like that one to Dickinson. it should only apply if you throw a body part toward the plate/strikezone… stupid that it applies in that situation when you pull your body away from the strikezone into your own body and can’t even see the ball. And if it’s clearly ball 4 and you get hit in the batters box it should be ball4.
And that should not be a reviewable play. Review trying to “interpret” batters intention is dumb. While I understand trying to eliminate people getting intentionally hit, they’ve gone overboard/too far the other direction in applying that.
And when the ball hits an umpire the umps should have the ability/discretion to award an extra base
So to your point… yes the game was called well per the rules but some of the rules might need some tweaking
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:25 am to SelaTiger
I’ll agree the zone was called same for both teams so I can live w that.
The elbow hit by pitch I still don’t agree with.
I think DD said it best this morning:
“That’s one of those instances where I think technology works against the game. If we can slow it down to the point where we’re arguing whether or not a player is changing direction with intent while also disregarding the laws of physics (and momentum), I think we’ve lost the plot. But I digress..”
The elbow hit by pitch I still don’t agree with.
I think DD said it best this morning:
“That’s one of those instances where I think technology works against the game. If we can slow it down to the point where we’re arguing whether or not a player is changing direction with intent while also disregarding the laws of physics (and momentum), I think we’ve lost the plot. But I digress..”
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:28 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:25 am to SelaTiger
Which Tiger should go?
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:28 am to SelaTiger
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The Dickinson play was correct. He did move his elbow into it.
I don't care if he did or didnt.... that call shouldn't be reviewable when the pitch misses on a 3 ball count because getting hit/not hit is irrelevant.
Since no advantage can be gained by getting hit on a ball on a 3 ball count it should be assumed the batter did not do it intentionally. Take your base, let play resume as it would have.
Had the count been 2-2 id agree with it
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:33 am to SelaTiger
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The Dickinson play was correct.
Completely disagree.
He was moving his elbow back. He did not extend out to be hit by the pitch. Call should have stood.
The check swing called was also crap.
The home plate ump didn't bother me.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:33 am to scott8811
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I don't care if he did or didnt.... that call shouldn't be reviewable when the pitch misses on a 3 ball count because getting hit/not hit is irrelevant. Since no advantage can be gained by getting hit on a ball on a 3 ball count it should be assumed the batter did not do it intentionally. Take your base, let play resume as it would have. Had the count been 2-2 id agree with it
I do agree with this. It’s a stupid rule for that situation. But as far as the rules go, it was correct. Should be changed in the rules.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:35 am to saturncube21
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Wrong-Dickinson didn’t lean into home plate
This and Jeff Head not doing more to get out of the way are my only two gripes.
Zone was consistent for the most part.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:36 am to saturncube21
quote:They didn’t say he leaned into home plate.
Wrong-Dickinson didn’t lean into home plate
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:39 am to SelaTiger
the strike zone was mostly consistent, but overall, terrible. Once he establishes what it is, it is hard to move off of that. However, late in the game, there were some big missed calls on Anderson's side that had been called all game.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:41 am to 0x15E
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Zone was consistent for the most part.
He squeezed him in the last inning but it was a major league strike zone the whole game
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:41 am to saturncube21
He did NOT lean 'into it".
He did not move one millimeter toward the plate. He pulled his arm into his body and turned, like anyone else would do. It was a horse shite call AND a horse shite challenge
He did not move one millimeter toward the plate. He pulled his arm into his body and turned, like anyone else would do. It was a horse shite call AND a horse shite challenge
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:42 am to saturncube21
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Wrong-Dickinson didn’t lean into home plate
The home plate umpire called it right. I thought his zone was fair and shut up all the chatter about coastal having a catcher that can win games.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:43 am to SelaTiger
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The Dickinson play was correct. He did move his elbow into it.
absolutely wrong. he was striding into a swing. that's why his momentum was going forward/down when he turned to take a hit. go actually watch the replay again. maybe stand up and reenact it yourself if you don't believe me. it was a BS call.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:43 am to SelaTiger
quote:except that every other time in the CWS that it was reviewed and a player's elbow dropped into the ball, they ruled it a HBP. Turning and dropping your elbow as you are rotating your back is the natural motion when protecting yourself. They called it correctly every other time, except that one. Just a horse shite call by the replay officials.
The Dickinson play was correct. He did move his elbow into it. It was frustrating at the time, but the correct call according to the rules.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:44 am to Mrtommorrow1987
For people that argue for automated strike zones, that’s what it will look like.
That was the most accurate strike zone I have seen in college baseball maybe ever. Was extremely impressed with the ump behind the plate
Regarding the HBP, if that’s the correct call by rule, the rule is horrific. The batters elbow moved down into the ball, yes, but his elbow is also moving backwards AWAY FROM THR PLATE while getting hit inside the batters box
That was the most accurate strike zone I have seen in college baseball maybe ever. Was extremely impressed with the ump behind the plate
Regarding the HBP, if that’s the correct call by rule, the rule is horrific. The batters elbow moved down into the ball, yes, but his elbow is also moving backwards AWAY FROM THR PLATE while getting hit inside the batters box
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:47 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:46 am to JPLSU1981
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And when the ball hits an umpire the umps should have the ability/discretion to award an extra base
This! Cost us a run, and could have cost us the game. Runner would have easily made 2nd and scored on the following hit Rule should be reviewed...umps have a lot of discretion on other plays, like 2nd base slide
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:47 am to Lester Earl
Talked to Kyle Peterson on the elevator last night and his answer to the HBP was that it was going to be ball 4, and Dickinson should have bailed out completely. I’ve always liked KP, but couldn’t believe that answer.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:47 am to lsupride87
Prayers that Head is not behind the plate today.
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