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Does United States constitutional rights apply to non-US citizens?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:45 am
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:45 am
I’ve never heard a clear answer on this. Maybe some board lawyers can clear it up for me
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 8:46 am
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:46 am to Jack Daniel
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:47 am to Jack Daniel
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Does United States constitutional rights apply to non-US citizens?
Certain ones do, certain ones don't.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:48 am to Jack Daniel
I would argue that they don't.
I can't imagine me traveling to some one horse town in china and demanding that I have rights there.
I can't imagine me traveling to some one horse town in china and demanding that I have rights there.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:48 am to Jack Daniel
As far criminal law goes, they do. I’m not advocating it, just stating a matter of fact that they do.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 8:50 am
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:49 am to Jack Daniel
Our rights come from God. So any right that we have they have. Stuff like voting isn't a right, it's a privilege.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:49 am to Jack Daniel
Do and should are two different things... apparently they do apply, I don't they should, but at the moment, they do.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:54 am to Jack Daniel
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Does United States constitutional rights apply to non-US citizens?
Need to know who the non US citizens would vote for before determining if they should be afforded the rights under the US Constitution.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:56 am to Jack Daniel
Yes, they do, but not to the same extent as a US Citizen. However, anyone in our country, either visiting, legal or illegal, are afforded certain Constitutional rights.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:06 am to SantaFe
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I would argue that they don't.
I can't imagine me traveling to some one horse town in china and demanding that I have rights there.
That’s not a great argument. Do we premise US rights on what China does?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:10 am to Jack Daniel
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Does United States constitutional rights apply to non-US citizens?
Mostly yes.
The ones that don’t apply to non-citizens are when they qualify for expedited deportation.
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:20 am to Bunk Moreland
the problem with the "due process" argument, is that "due process" is very subjective, and the leftists are deliberately using it to imply, or say straight up, that every illegal alien is due court dates and full reviews of their entire cases, which is of course ridiculous. they know damn well that that is a hopeless proposition to keep up with, which is why they're hitching themselves to the "due process" concept.
leftists are honestly pretty amazing at twisting words and language to attempt to trap their political opponents into seemingly indefensible positions.
leftists are honestly pretty amazing at twisting words and language to attempt to trap their political opponents into seemingly indefensible positions.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:28 am to Jack Daniel
Granted by God and identified (not bestowed) in the constitution- YES.
All others- depends on how it was written.... normally.
If ReSiStS Trump, currently, according to Fed judges, absolutely and it isn't debatable so Trump is being a dictator when he appeals the ruling as an argument between two co-equal branches of government.
All others- depends on how it was written.... normally.
If ReSiStS Trump, currently, according to Fed judges, absolutely and it isn't debatable so Trump is being a dictator when he appeals the ruling as an argument between two co-equal branches of government.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:39 am to Jack Daniel
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Does United States constitutional rights apply to non-US citizens?
If duly processed by border agents into the country, yes.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:42 am to Jack Daniel
No, and it’s silly to suggest they do
If that’s the case why are illegals not allowed to own firearms, vote, etc
When they choose to hop the fence, they are forfeiting all rights. They are invaders, no different than a burglar knocking down your door. Castle doctrine
If that’s the case why are illegals not allowed to own firearms, vote, etc
When they choose to hop the fence, they are forfeiting all rights. They are invaders, no different than a burglar knocking down your door. Castle doctrine
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:44 am to Jack Daniel
Driver's license
Welfare
Voting
Free housing and medical
YES
Prosecution for committing robbery, rape or murder
NO
Welfare
Voting
Free housing and medical
YES
Prosecution for committing robbery, rape or murder
NO
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:44 am to Sam Quint
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the problem with the "due process" argument, is that "due process" is very subjective, and the leftists are deliberately using it to imply, or say straight up, that every illegal alien is due court dates and full reviews of their entire cases, which is of course ridiculous. they know damn well that that is a hopeless proposition to keep up with, which is why they're hitching themselves to the "due process" concept.
Yeah, people get caught up in buzzwords and ignore what the words actually say. The process that is due a person can vary widely. That doesn't they're not receiving due process.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:45 am to Jack Daniel
They actually are. It's not a popular truth but it is unfortunately.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 9:46 am
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:47 am to Jack Daniel
If illegal non U.S. citizens aren’t allowed to enter up front then the constitutional rights question is mute.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:50 am to GeauxBurrow312
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If that’s the case why are illegals not allowed to own firearms, vote, etc
The 2nd amendment is written in terms of "the people" not "person", which denotes citizenship.
The 5th and 14th, for example, reference "person" when speaking of certain rights like due process. This means anyone within our territory, not just citizens.
Voting is exclusive to citizens. There isn't any anachronistic ambiguity here
15th:
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
19th:
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
24th:
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The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
26th
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The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
Hopefully this basic civics lesson was useful
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