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At what point does Russia have to show (Europe) they are willing to nuclear

Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:37 pm
The EU and Zelenskyy are trying to punk Russia the way they have been trying to punk Trump.

At what point does Putin have no choice but to make them put up or shut up and take Ukraine down a few notches.

I think he is getting close.

This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
22753 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:43 pm to
If he does that, it’s WWIII
Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
19373 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:47 pm to
Naw, Putin's gotta finish this conventional style.

What sucks for Ukraine is that he's patient and doesn't care how many troops he has to send.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8507 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:48 pm to
They don't. They are going to win the war. As long as they don't do anything that forces Europe to escalate, they'll waltz into Kiev and take whatever they want.

It is a win-win-win for the leadership of Russia (eventually gets their victory), Ukraine (gets rich) and Europe (distracts from their internal problems while not requiring any real action). Sucks for all the people getting pointlessly killed, though.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:49 pm to
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What sucks for Ukraine is that he's patient and doesn't care how many troops he has to send.

Yeah those people are just cannon fodder

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19538 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:49 pm to
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Naw, Putin's gotta finish this conventional style.


Poor Putin. He never knows when a little drone will chase him down.
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1671 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:50 pm to
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What sucks for Ukraine is that he's patient and doesn't care how many troops he has to send.


Throughout its entire history, Russia/ Soviet Union has always been wiliing to do this.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3890 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:50 pm to
I don't know, but I hope it doesn't get to that point.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1488 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:51 pm to
Hopefully that waltz into Kiev goes better this time then it did the first time.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19538 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Hopefully that waltz into Kiev goes better this time then it did the first time.


Trump will have to decide if we intervene to save Ukraine which will drive us deeper into war. Or if he lets Russia take Ukraine and whatever other country to prevent war. Big decisions.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37090 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:53 pm to
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The EU and Zelenskyy are trying to punk Russia
By trying to win? lol
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17001 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:54 pm to
Punk Russia? You mean make them look bad because Russia is supposed to be this big ole scary monster, yet little ole Ukraine is able to destroy nuclear bombers thousands of miles away from Ukraine?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452329 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:54 pm to
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At what point does Russia have to show (Europe) they are willing to nuclear

If Russia goes nuclear they can't win, and Putin knows this.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9881 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:55 pm to
Last I checked Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons.

How would it be wwIII. The US should stay out of it and I do not think Europe has the stomach for it, they are all talk and no action if it comes to it.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4203 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:56 pm to
Now, they can't sit by and wait for another attack on their nuke triad, we wouldn't. A tactical nuke is an appropriate response.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19538 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:56 pm to
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How would it be wwIII. The US should stay out of it and I do not think Europe has the stomach for it, they are all talk and no action if it comes to it.

If Putin takes Ukraine it is a defeat for the west. And Russia will not be done. So yeah, this will be a major defeat and loss of influence for the west.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165617 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Last I checked Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons.

How would it be wwIII.

Because other nations are not likely to tolerate a nuclear strike
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
739 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:59 pm to
That’s the end of Russia if he does that. He’s not an idiot, he understands what happens if he does that. The Russian have traditionally been willing to take heavy casualties and keep coming forward. Putin doesn’t care how many Russian casualties he has. Russia will continue to ground on the Ukraine.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47481 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:05 pm to
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The EU and Zelenskyy are trying to punk Russi

frick those guys for trying to “punk” the country that invaded them.
Posted by oklahogjr
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39587 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:06 pm to
Putin nukes Ukraine and Russia is immediately at war with Europe. US most likely follows suit as well or supports Europe.
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