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Why were musicians/vocalists so much more talented back in the day ?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:24 am
1955-1985 created an endless sea of incredible music & musicians.
What has the last 30 years produced ?
Taylor Swift ? Rap ?
Elvis & Jerry Lee Lewis classics were recorded in Sun Studio in one take.
Now everything is a bunch of autotuned garbage because singers have no talent.
You could list hundreds of Singers/Groups from 1955-1985 that blow away anything produced in the last 30 years.
What happened ?
What has the last 30 years produced ?
Taylor Swift ? Rap ?
Elvis & Jerry Lee Lewis classics were recorded in Sun Studio in one take.
Now everything is a bunch of autotuned garbage because singers have no talent.
You could list hundreds of Singers/Groups from 1955-1985 that blow away anything produced in the last 30 years.
What happened ?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:38 am to Shredded
This is accurate! I believe before MTV that a musician had to be very talented and good at what They did in order to be heard.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:54 am to Shredded
I don’t know but I’m glad I grew up during the greatest period of music in history.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 10:24 am to Shredded
Pop music is more about looks than talent these days.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 10:45 am to rutiger
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Pop music is more about looks than talent these days.
Even this seems to be a downgrade though. I really don't get dudes who go apeshit for Taylor Swift and Sabrina Carpenter. Feels like between the music industry and movie industry there is a lot of mid, not even cute, talent.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:03 am to Shredded
I think talent was all encompassing. A person needed to be able to push a product that was good AND also look good for the most part. Engineers and producers had less to work with (auto tune) so the more talented artists, which includes vocals (see many actresses and actors also can sing well), rose to the top. Music has also become more mindless due to the ever receding attention spans of society. No one young wants to sit there and listen to something that makes them think. It’s all very mindless, 4/4 and catchy pop stuff. Something like the wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald couldn’t come out today because it’s over 5 minutes long. No iPad kid has that sort of mental capacity to pay attention that long. AI can put out a country song that is IDENTICAL to today’s pop country garbage, often better. So the way songs are made has changed, the amount of thought that goes into it has been gutted, the chordal structure has simplified, and lyrics are less thought provoking and more mindless.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:16 am to rutiger
Around the late 70's to early 80's, an artists image became more important than their talent. That still holds true today. However, there are still some very talented people out there. Digital recording has made it possible for everybody and their brother to record songs, so a lot of what we hear is trash. Back in the day you couldn't even get a song recorded unless it was good. There were exceptions, but for the most part, if a song was released to the world way back when it had already been heavily vetted..
Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:47 pm to Shredded
One, their voices were much stronger because they performed at a time when PA’s left much to be desired. Little to no monitoring and mostly a mic with two small speakers.
Two, our public educational systems believed in the importance of music and choir and were funded as such.
Just two off the top of my head.
Two, our public educational systems believed in the importance of music and choir and were funded as such.
Just two off the top of my head.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:08 pm to Shredded
Lack of enhancing electronics back then would be my guess.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:22 pm to Shredded
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What has the last 30 years produced ? Taylor Swift ? Rap ?
Yes, this is literally the only music to come out in the last 30 years
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:32 pm to Shredded
The major music labels controlled who got to be in a studio and the type of music the labels approved of. If you weren't on a major label you didnt have much opportunity to record and distribute your music. The big labels naturally only allowed the most talented people in the studio. Punk rock changed all that and those musicians often were DIY bands which showed people you didn't need to be on a big label to make music. Those punks also started their own, small labels to distribute albums and even created their own promotional material for live shows. Bands that came after punk rock adopted this same DIY attitude and these days, anyone with a computer can set up a studio like recording room in their apartment. I think its for the best we have so many people doing their own thing, it provides much more variety. But it also allows somebody like me to put out shitty music.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:57 am to Shredded
There aren’t. Much fewer people “made it” so you never saw the really untalented people.
Now both the talented and untalented can have a platform.
Now both the talented and untalented can have a platform.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:13 am to Shredded
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You could list hundreds of Singers/Groups from 1955-1985 that blow away anything produced in the last 30 years.
Just a random question then. There is only preference and not a right or wrong answer. A #1 song in 1967 was "To Sir with Love" by Lulu. So Adele, couldn't hang with her?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:17 am to Cdawg
Yea, people romanticize past eras.
There was obviously great music from those times, but also a lot of crap. There was formulaic "fake" stuff being put out left and right during that period, just as there is now.
There was obviously great music from those times, but also a lot of crap. There was formulaic "fake" stuff being put out left and right during that period, just as there is now.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:30 am to Shredded
That era also produced Kiss, disco, and an endless barrage of shitty hair bands.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:01 am to Shredded
Anyone with a computer can put up a song on Soundcloud or TikTok these days. Back in the early 2000's you had Purevolume. We are inundated with music these days, which IMO, is a good thing. The downside is that a lot of crappy music is out there, and unfortunately some niche microgenres of it gets popular (see: mumble rap, hick hop). Back in the day you had your radio and whatever the record store had, so there was very limited diversity of musical subgenres and bands breaking into the scene, meaning if you weren't technically proficient you were going to struggle.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:22 am to Michael T. Tiger
Taylor Swift’s popularity is in part BECAUSE she’s not super hot. She’s cute enough to get attention, but not so hot that women feel threatened by her looks. That keeps her relatable to so many women, and is another reason (besides her catchy songwriting) why she dominates the charts. It’s a similar story for the Queen of all Lesbians: Chappel Roan, and alt-girl pipeline Billie Eilish. The charts are dominated by teenage girls and their moms. Guys don’t listen to pop music anymore.
The alleged decline in vocal talent is due to the prevalence of auto tune and time aligning of vocals that was widespread adopted by the music industry in the mid 90’s combined with the whisper singing trend that was started by Brittney Spears but really popularized again by Billie Eilish and duplicated by every other female artist since.
With that said, there IS crazy talent out there. Ariana Grande is a legit freak of nature who’s insane range would make her famous in any decade. Haley Williams is arguably the most gifted frontwoman in the history of rock music.
The alleged decline in vocal talent is due to the prevalence of auto tune and time aligning of vocals that was widespread adopted by the music industry in the mid 90’s combined with the whisper singing trend that was started by Brittney Spears but really popularized again by Billie Eilish and duplicated by every other female artist since.
With that said, there IS crazy talent out there. Ariana Grande is a legit freak of nature who’s insane range would make her famous in any decade. Haley Williams is arguably the most gifted frontwoman in the history of rock music.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:38 pm to Bowstring1
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a musician had to be very talented and good at what They did in order to be heard.
This is the answer. Back in the day, an artist had to practice to get gigs. They had to play regularly to get heard. They had to stand out to make a record. The sheer repetition and opportunity made great artists. Now, it's 95% about looks. The new artists are given pre-written songs to perform. They didn't cut their teeth in the clubs. The music of today is meant to sell a few singles and go away. It's why one can turn on the 80s channels and hear classics, but turn on the 90s or 00s channels and hear forgotten songs.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 3:55 pm to Shredded
Back in the day you had to actually purchase the physical copy of the music you wanted to listen to. Nowadays everything is at your finger tips via social media. So you have that. Also Rap while popular does not take any musical talent to produce. None (Very few) of the Country Stars write their own music and the same goes for Pop. Even back in the day that went on to some extent as well.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 5:48 pm to Shredded
Nick Lowe put it best: "You can't shine shite"
ETA. If you read a lot of music bios, you find a lot of singers got started singing in churches. Once they got a local following, many got a show on a local radio or TV station. Radio and TV have very little local programming nowadays
ETA. If you read a lot of music bios, you find a lot of singers got started singing in churches. Once they got a local following, many got a show on a local radio or TV station. Radio and TV have very little local programming nowadays
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 5:56 pm
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