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Winners and Losers (taxes)
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:04 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:04 am
The issue with selectively picking who has to pay tax and who doesn’t is now you’ve created more issues
1) Let’s all establish that all income tax should be abolished and then everyone is happy
2) Now everyone is incentivized to be paid via tips or overtime. Next thing you know employers are going to start classifying retail workers as tip earners, lower their salary and this will be the next group we all have to be guilted into tipping
3) If I am paying taxes, and some other group is not. I am basically being punished for some arbitrary reason.
4) I don’t see this as incrementalism. If anything it goes the opposite direction, and gives more power to the IRS as our tax code just became more complicated. Requiring more complicated auditing and a bigger tax industrial complex needed to sort through it.
5) Anything that passes 100-0 cannot be a good thing for the country. Something seems off. The last thing we want is these parasitic demons on the hill to be joining hands on something, it’s usually not good news for the people
1) Let’s all establish that all income tax should be abolished and then everyone is happy
2) Now everyone is incentivized to be paid via tips or overtime. Next thing you know employers are going to start classifying retail workers as tip earners, lower their salary and this will be the next group we all have to be guilted into tipping
3) If I am paying taxes, and some other group is not. I am basically being punished for some arbitrary reason.
4) I don’t see this as incrementalism. If anything it goes the opposite direction, and gives more power to the IRS as our tax code just became more complicated. Requiring more complicated auditing and a bigger tax industrial complex needed to sort through it.
5) Anything that passes 100-0 cannot be a good thing for the country. Something seems off. The last thing we want is these parasitic demons on the hill to be joining hands on something, it’s usually not good news for the people
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 7:05 am
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:10 am to burger bearcat
If they did away with tipping wait staff and raised prices to properly compensate them, "All You Can Eat" crab legs would be unaffordable.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:12 am to burger bearcat
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2) Now everyone is incentivized to be paid via tips or overtime. Next thing you know employers are going to start classifying retail workers as tip earners, lower their salary and this will be the next group we all have to be guilted into tipping
You are aware that the law narrowly defines what professions and jobs qualify for the tip exception, no?
Did you think Congress didn't think of this loophole? lmao.
The whole no tips on taxes or OT is retarded and has zero logic. It is more retarded populist pandering from an unserious administration driving the country off a cliff.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 7:39 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:13 am to burger bearcat
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3) If I am paying taxes, and some other group is not. I am basically being punished for some arbitrary reason.
This is the infuriating part about people supporting these policies. This is straight up Leftist bullshite and supporting government picking winners and losers.
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4) I don’t see this as incrementalism. If anything it goes the opposite direction, and gives more power to the IRS as our tax code just became more complicated. Requiring more complicated auditing and a bigger tax industrial complex needed to sort through it.
Correct.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:14 am to burger bearcat
This is a summary of Matt Walsh’s dialogue on it yesterday lol
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:36 am to burger bearcat
Abolish the income tax.
This is how you know the Marxist progressives are indoctrinated shitheads - none of them support abolishing income tax even though income tax is the most anti-labor taxation imaginable.
This is how you know the Marxist progressives are indoctrinated shitheads - none of them support abolishing income tax even though income tax is the most anti-labor taxation imaginable.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:43 am to burger bearcat
Governments have always picked winners and losers.
It's what they do. Think about it
It's what they do. Think about it
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I sure the frick aint winning with any of it because any money I will save on taxes I have lost more on tariffs . he fricked my portfolio over and over and my business has been hurt by price increases on almost everything I am in the technology field and in case you havent noticed there isnt that much fricking technology made in the US so I have been hit with anywhere from 5-30 percent price hikes on all my Purchases. I was fine with it but now this shite is getting fricking old.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:49 am to Huey Lewis
I question the logic of anyone wanting to keep a tax.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:50 am to burger bearcat
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4) I don’t see this as incrementalism. If anything it goes the opposite direction, and gives more power to the IRS as our tax code just became more complicated. Requiring more complicated auditing and a bigger tax industrial complex needed to sort through it.
No administration/Congress has simplified the tax code.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 7:54 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:57 am to burger bearcat
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3) If I am paying taxes, and some other group is not. I am basically being punished for some arbitrary reason.
And just think how much tax isn't actually taxed b/c it's not claimed.
I have a friend who was clearing 800-1K/night working at a higher end restaurant and would work 5-6 days a week. Her W2 was for 12,000
I'm all for abolishing income taxes. I think legalized theft.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:05 am to burger bearcat
The ability to pick winners and losers is the ONLY reason that you can't do your return on a post card.
You should yell at the clouds next.
You should yell at the clouds next.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:34 am to BHS78
If tipping went away in general that would be great. I receive regularly bills that now have 20-25-30% calculations for tips. I like their explanations as to why, the cost of living as is the 15% on a bill that is already higher because of that cost of living. Expectations of tips has now reached service counters in variety of that their whole need of employment is to calculate the purchase of goods and not providing a minimum amount of service. Percentage wise they want more of your money than the government gets by blackmailing people with threats of incarceration
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:06 am to jclem11
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You are aware that the law narrowly defines what professions and jobs qualify for the tip exception, no?
Most people don't deal with the IRS and the business side payroll so they have no idea how narrowly the FLSA/IRS defines how individual jobs get paid.
People still think you can just change someone to an independent contactor and 1099 them, and now a bunch of people think you can just change people to tipped employees when in fact both of those will get businesses in tons of trouble.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:11 am to BHS78
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If they properly compensated wait staff
I can’t believe it’s legal to pay them so low to begin with.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:16 am to idlewatcher
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I have a friend who was clearing 800-1K/night working at a higher end restaurant and would work 5-6 days a week. Her W2 was for 12,000
WHAT exactly was their job for that payment?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:20 am to southernboisb
It could be worse. Kamala or Joe could have won. It was a brilliant idea and it worked for Trump. We need to make a lot of changes but at least we have a chance to make some good ones.
Spending cuts are the key. We just spend too much money on things that don’t improve the quality of life for enough people. Stop the waste, fraud and abuse or at least reduce it.
Spending cuts are the key. We just spend too much money on things that don’t improve the quality of life for enough people. Stop the waste, fraud and abuse or at least reduce it.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:26 am to dovehunter
Not to get into it, but how many consecutive years has the Defense Dept. NOT had a balanced budget?
That’s a huge concern.
That’s a huge concern.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:28 am to BHS78
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If they did away with tipping wait staff and raised prices to properly compensate them
That's what should be done
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