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Ground cover under oak trees

Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
441 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:37 pm
What is a good grass alternative that will work in the shade and fairly wet soil that grass won’t grow in?

I want something that stays short and either doesn’t need mowing or minimal mowing. I found a couple but they like dry soil.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6448 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:51 pm to
Not sure about the wet soil part.

But I planted a few cast irons near the oak tree and then further out a lot of dwarf mondo plants. I'm going to see how it starts to fill in this year, but may add some more next fall to help it fill in faster.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46863 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:14 pm to
cast iron
liriope
monkey grass
all classics under live oaks, plant and forget
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
6809 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:46 pm to
I’d stay away from planting Asian jasmine. You’ll thank me later.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
2012 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:51 pm to
Saw something about Wandering Jew plant growing well in shade, but I don't have any myself.
Posted by jlsufan
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
386 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:34 pm to
Japanese ardisia
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32514 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 10:37 pm to
You need to give yourself an 8-10’ diameter mulch ring before you start planting.

After that I’d plant super blue liriope. Make sure it’s super blue and not big blue. You can plant that with about 15” on center spacing and it will fill in quickly.

You will have to water it well though since it’s competing with the oak for water and nutrients. Once established you won’t have to do anything but occasionally pull some weeds
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 10:38 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13722 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:47 am to
quote:

Wandering Jew plant growing well in shade

It does well in offices that don't get a lot of natural light. It took me years to realize that I'm supposed to find the nickname for that plant offensive.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
2012 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:42 am to
Yeah that's what I was reading. Some think it is offensive. So tired of people being offended by anything and everything.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3482 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:07 pm to
Have you considered ferns? We planted a few 3 gal plants years ago and they cover hundreds of sq ft now, zero maintenance. They're Kimberly Queens but there are tons of native options you can go with.

quote:

Wandering Jew


Fun fact, there's a Green version of this called Wandering Willy. It is invasive AF though so keep it potted.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11200 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:50 pm to
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I’d stay away from planting Asian jasmine. You’ll thank me later.

Please explain. Is it the upkeep?
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
6809 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:16 pm to
Yes, once you plant it it takes over everything and is just about impossible to get rid of outside of very strong herbicide. Once, I used a shovel to scrape up the root system of the thick mat. I thought I got it all, but it came back regardless.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34066 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:19 pm to
It does want to take over but looks great if you keep it under control
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
3115 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 2:02 pm to
Purple hearts
Posted by Skodenix
Member since Dec 2025
1 post
Posted on 12/18/25 at 6:54 am to
I had a similar issue under a big live oak, and I ended up mixing dwarf mondo grass with a few patches of asiatic jasmine where it got a bit more light. Both handled the roots pretty well and didn’t need much water. For stuff closer to the house where grass won’t grow either, I actually used a few potted houseplants from an indoor plant delivery — made those spots look less bare.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 6:47 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23515 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:10 pm to
Why not perennial rye? It's inexpensive and will last from October through May. After that, I'd try Zoysia sod and keep the ball rolling.

The only thing that I've done to my large live oak is trim the edges with a ladder.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1982 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

I’d stay away from planting Asian jasmine. You’ll thank me later.
I have asian jasmine under our oak tree and it looks great. The monkey grass doesn’t look near as niceI wish the jasmine would spread.
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