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Guess manufacturing isn't coming back unless the next play is huge tax benefits to do so
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:53 pm
The mixed messaging on the calculations was one thing but now a pause to negotiate everyone down to zero (which seems to be the real goal) does nothing for job creation in America.
A win is a win I guess but I am willing to admit the admin really bungled the messaging of stated goals.
What about replacing income tax with tariffs? Guess that is long forgotten if we get everyone and everything down to zero.
A win is a win I guess but I am willing to admit the admin really bungled the messaging of stated goals.
What about replacing income tax with tariffs? Guess that is long forgotten if we get everyone and everything down to zero.
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:55 pm to stout
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Guess manufacturing isn't coming back unless the next play is huge tax benefits to do so
BRO THIS WAS HIS PLAN ALL ALONG YOURE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT!
Signed - Every retard PoliBro
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:55 pm to stout
This was his plan from day 1. If you are too stupid to understand him that’s on you.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:55 pm to stout
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Guess manufacturing isn't coming back
I think this is by far the 2nd lease likely outcome.
Fair trade and the "refi" options are the 2 most likely, IMHO.
The "Fair trade/Zero tariff" has the lowest benefits but the lowest risk/pain, so that's not shocking.
The "Refi" theory may have exploded and they're now pivoting in real time to adjust to the rates going the wrong way.
"bringing manufacturing back" seems very DOA.
Tariffs replacing the income tax is very DOA. *edited to include this, which is clearly the least likely now.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:56 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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This was his plan from day 1
I am old enough to remember when the two stated goals was to bring jobs back and replace the income tax
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:56 pm to stout
The messaging is bundled because these tariffs are truly meant to do two things.
Get other nations to lower their own tariffs and VAT’s.
Check China, as they’ve been running rampant for decades and we’ve allowed it.
The American manufacturing thing truly is a goal, but this would be a long term fix rather than short term.
Get other nations to lower their own tariffs and VAT’s.
Check China, as they’ve been running rampant for decades and we’ve allowed it.
The American manufacturing thing truly is a goal, but this would be a long term fix rather than short term.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:56 pm to sidewalkside
The good thing about the "plan" is that if you claim that it's meant to do everything simultaneously, you're always right. Even if your outcomes are contradictory. It's like betting red AND black on a roulette table. Guaranteed money, right?!
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:57 pm to stout
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I am old enough to remember when the two stated goals was to bring jobs back and replace the income tax
The 2 goals at the back of the pack, currently.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:57 pm to stout
Why don’t we wait and see what concessions countries end up giving us before we tack it up as a win or loss
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:57 pm to Deuces
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The messaging is bundled because these tariffs are truly meant to do two things.
Get other nations to lower their own tariffs and VAT’s.
Check China, as they’ve been running rampant for decades and we’ve allowed it.
So the admin lied when they said they would replace the income tax? Trump brought it up multiple times.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:58 pm to stout
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I am old enough to remember when the two stated goals was to bring jobs back and replace the income tax
That was a figment of your imagination. Trump is executing perfectly and frick you if you disagree.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:58 pm to stout
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I am old enough to remember when the two stated goals was to bring jobs back and replace the income tax
There will still be an environment via tariff, tax, and regulation that specific manufacturing sectors will grow
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:58 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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Why don’t we wait and see what concessions countries end up giving us before we tack it up as a win or loss
If the only affects felt are positive for exporters then I hardly see that as a win
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:58 pm to stout
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So the admin lied when they said they would replace the income tax? Trump brought it up multiple times.
Would need Congress. Not going to happen.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:59 pm to Ingeniero
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The good thing about the "plan" is that if you claim that it's meant to do everything simultaneously, you're always right. Even if your outcomes are contradictory. It's like betting red AND black on a roulette table. Guaranteed money, right?!
This.
Well said
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:59 pm to stout
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So the admin lied when they said they would replace the income tax? Trump brought it up multiple times.
He is both bringing manufacturing back by implementing tariffs, and getting us a better deal by lowering the cost of manufacturing overseas through eliminating tariffs. Don't question it!
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:59 pm to stout
I think the idea is negotiating down tariffs and bringing back some manufacturing. Obviously we aren't bring back all manufacturing
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:59 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That was a figment of your imagination. Trump is executing perfectly and frick you if you disagree.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:59 pm to skullhawk
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There will still be an environment via tariff, tax, and regulation that specific manufacturing sectors will grow
I understand that but they did a poor job conveying that
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:00 pm to stout
We got 4D chess’d partner. I was itchin to grab a wrench and work a manufacturing job ‘til I’m sweating’ grease and glory, cause blue collar beats them latte-sippin’ desk jockeys any day!
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