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Model: 2025 tariffs would result in -$3,800 per household, GDP shrinks by 0.8% over decade

Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:38 pm
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The price level from all 2025 tariffs rises by 2.3% in the short-run, the equivalent of an average per household consumer loss of $3,800 in 2024$. Annual losses for households at the bottom of the income distribution are $1,700.


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US real GDP growth is -0.5pp lower in 2025 from the April 2nd announcement and -0.9pp lower from all 2025 tariffs. In the long-run, the US economy is persistently -0.4 and -0.6% smaller respectively, the equivalent of $100 billion and $180 billion annually in 2024$.



The Tax Foundation analysis generally agrees with the Yale study above:

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The newly announced tariffs on April 2 will raise $1.8 trillion in revenue over the next decade and shrink US GDP by 0.5 percent. The April 2 escalation comes in addition to previously announced tariffs, which will raise $1.3 in revenue over the next decade and shrink US GDP by 0.3 percent. Altogether, Trump’s tariffs will raise nearly $3.2 trillion in revenue over the next decade and reduce US GDP by 0.8 percent.

The tariffs will reduce after-tax income by an average of 2.1 percent and amount to an average tax increase of more than $2,100 per US household in 2025.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:40 pm to
So a model huh.

Is that like the 9 billion death Covid prediction model? You know, the models used to support lockdowns.
Posted by TigerAttorney
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:41 pm to
Check back in Q4
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:41 pm to
Are they permanent? Asking for an Alaska idiot.
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:42 pm to
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The tariffs will reduce after-tax income by an average of 2.1 percent and amount to an average tax increase of more than $2,100 per US household in 2025.

I'd like to see this math.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:43 pm to
Where were these ppl when Biden was handing out tens of millions of dollars every week to Ukraine?
Posted by Boss
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:43 pm to
So if they aren’t permanent how are we bringing manufacturing back to the US? We doing both now?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:43 pm to
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So a model huh.




If models accurately saw into the future big money companies would never go out of business.

Enron had a lot of models.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:43 pm to
One thing is for sure. It will absolutely amount to a tax increase.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:44 pm to
The tariffs are ultimately a negotiation tool no?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:46 pm to
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One thing is for sure. It will absolutely amount to a tax increase

I'd still like to see the math. Something seems fricky in those posted numbers.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:48 pm to
I'm skeptical of the numbers also. One thing is for sure though. There are a lot more finance bros that think this is a shite sandwich than a good idea.

I'm not a betting man but I don't like relying on the idea that Trump is right and pretty much everyone else is wrong.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:48 pm to
And according to all of those Al Gore approved climate models, the world should’ve ended by 2012. The models simply spit out exactly what the programmers tell it to.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:48 pm to
A model from Yale.....
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1610 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:48 pm to
So if that’s the case, we aren’t bringing manufacturing back to America then because if all tariffs go to zero we will just buy cheaper shite from foreign countries. Right?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:51 pm to
Perhaps. But cheaper is good right? Competition allows our products a fight chance.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:55 pm to
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The tariffs are ultimately a negotiation tool no?


That's one theory. There are 2 main ones that Trump's fans vacillate to depending on the discussion.

The other is that they're going to bring back domestic manufacturing.
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:56 pm to
How much would our deficit go up in that same time frame? $8000 per household?

Eventually that chicken comes home to roost.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Enron had a lot of models.


Next Penrod will be along to talk about polls.
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