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The largest combined land, sea, and air battle began on this day 80 years ago...

Posted on 4/1/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 12:46 pm
The Battle of Okinawa.

Operation Iceberg - the U.S.-led invasion of the island of Okinawa - began on Easter Sunday, April 1, 1945. In the early morning hours, approximately 60,000 U.S. soldiers and marines landed on the beaches to surprisingly light resistance. Over the coming days, however, as U.S. forces continued to fan out to the north and south, resistance began to stiffen significantly and one of the most miserable battles of the Second World War began to establish its pattern. In the vain of World War I, American forces would attack heavily entrenched Japanese soldiers while under constant artillery bombardment. The body count began to stack up as thousands of Americans became casualties of war.

Roughly 110,000 men of the IJA and Home Guard opposed the force of 180,000 Americans in the campaign. By the time the island was declared secure on June 22, the Battle of Okinawa had resulted in 264,000 military and civilian casualties. The U.S. saw 12,000 of its men killed and an additional 37,000 reported wounded or missing. The Japanese losses were staggering, with 90,000 military KIA and an additional 125,000 civilians believed to have been killed. The numbers for the Japanese wounded will never be adequately accounted for.

Needless to say, the staggering losses of the Battle of Okinawa would eventually lead President Harry Truman to decide to use the atomic bomb on the Japanese rather than ordering a full invasion of the home islands. And so it can be truly said that the road to Hiroshima began.....80 years ago today.









Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 12:48 pm to

Okinawa was a bitch.

I still do not trust the japanese.
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 12:49 pm to
I read stories about Japanese mothers jumping off of cliffs with their children because Japanese propaganda had told them that Americans would eat their babies. Sad.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 12:51 pm to
Mabuni Cliffs.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:04 pm to
My father was a Pharmacist Mate on the hospital ship USS Comfort at Okinawa. His ship was kamikazed at night off the coast despite running full illumination and hospital insignia per the Geneva Convention. My dad escaped unharmed but the operating rooms were full and took major damage.

My FIL was Army Infantry in Okinawa and saw his first and only combat. He lost his hearing from the incessant shelling and had a chip on his shoulder for the rest of his life from that experience. Dont really blame him. He never talked in detail about the experience but mentioned many times of the horrors that he saw there as a young 18 yr old.

My dad passed at 95 and FIL at 97. Greatest generation.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:19 pm to




Posted by junior
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:15 pm to
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The largest combined land, sea, and air battle


D-Day doesn't count?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:32 pm to
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D-Day doesn't count?


I might be wrong here. But I think Iceberg was bigger as far as US participation and Overlord was bigger as far as combined allied participation.

The US landed 5 divisions on Normandy and 7 on Okinawa. Plus our air and naval presence at Okinawa was probably 2-3x what we had at Normandy.

We brought something like

35 carriers (of all sizes)
18 battleships
38 cruisers
200 destroyers
And over 3000 strike aircraft and bombers

It was an insane number. I think by that point we were building an aircraft carrier every month.

Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
21754 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:32 pm to
My dad served aboard an Attack Transport Ship (APA) during that battle:



On March 15, 1945, the Gage left Guadalcanal for Ulithi, a key staging base in the Caroline Islands, where the invasion fleet assembled. She sailed from Ulithi to Okinawa, arriving at Hagushi Beach on April 1, 1945—the day of the initial assault. Under the cover of intense naval gunfire and air bombardment, the Gage landed Marines from the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 6th Marine Division, along with a Navy construction battalion (Seabees), a medical company, and combat equipment. For five days and nights, from April 1 to April 5, she endured almost continual kamikaze threats, unloading her troops and supplies amid chaotic conditions. Her mission completed on April 5, she departed Okinawa.

From Grok

Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:46 pm to
Question for those in the know: did they let us land and infiltrate with 60k troops to appear weak and lead us towards a false sense of security?

Fwiw my grandfather was a merchant marine in WW2 and was falling out of his own bed as an old man because of nightmares about the Japanese.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25899 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:48 pm to
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The US landed 5 divisions on Normandy and 7 on Okinawa. Plus our air and naval presence at Okinawa was probably 2-3x what we had at Normandy.



Yep. A bloody test run for the invasion of the main island.

Okinawa is why Japan got nuked twice.

If you ever get to go to Okinawa there is a beautiful park and National Cemetery right on the battlefield. You can walk to the Mabuni Cliffs. The cliffs are not that high but the rocks below did the trick.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:48 pm to
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I still do not trust the japanese.


I think they are one of our strongest allies personally. Warriors respect warriors.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:55 pm to
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the staggering losses of the Battle of Okinawa would eventually lead President Harry Truman to decide to use the atomic bomb


Its definitely been mentioned as a factor on the thinking...at least officially. The ferocity of a dug in enemy that despite horrific conditions just refuses to surrender made them think of the casualties they would have invading Honshu (the main island of Japan), and they said frick that
Posted by Scoobs
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:05 pm to
My grandfather was a merchant marine radio operator, he told me he would roll out of bed running from a dream of being under attack, for years, after he got back from the war.
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:06 pm to
When men were men.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:06 pm to
Similar… My pops was a LARGE man and he would need help getting back in bed. He always dreamed they were about to kamikaze his ship.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68380 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:19 pm to
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D-Day doesn't count?



No.

That battle was very one-sided in the fact that the Germans had almost no aircraft in the sky that day and very little in the way of surface ships. That remained true for the entire Battle of Normandy.

The Battle of Okinawa saw massive dog fights in the skies over Okinawa and over the Pacific Ocean as well as dozens of suicidal Kamikaze attacks. Not to mention the battles between the USN and IJN on the high seas north of the island.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:22 pm to
My Dad was there.

He knew that if he had to invade the Home Islands, he wasn’t going to survive that.

We were always Teams FatMan & LittleBoy at our house.

Still am, as a human who can count.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:12 pm to
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japanese


quote:

I think they are one of our strongest allies personally. Warriors respect warriors.

100% agree.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
5646 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:27 pm to
After reading With the Old Breed, it gives you a whole new appreciation for the hell those men went through. It makes complaining about our first world problems trivial.
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