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Landlords - how often do you raise your rents?
Posted on 3/14/25 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 3/14/25 at 4:49 pm
I own rentals in Lafayette, LA and have not raised rents in 8 years. i tried once on a vacancy appx 6 years ago - i tried to go to $1200k/mnth on a 2bd 2 bath, appx 1200 sq ft. no interest, then as soon as i lowered it to $1k, it leased
the market in my neighbor hood is soft. do any of you have auto increases in your lease and are you able to keep tenants?
thanks to all
the market in my neighbor hood is soft. do any of you have auto increases in your lease and are you able to keep tenants?
thanks to all
Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:39 pm to aldawg2323
I'll provide you a renter's perspective from someone that has rented in multiple states and always paid on-time/early. In most spots, after the first year of a lease, I will ask upon renewal if they are going to raise the rent. When they say no, I've ended up renting for another year. After 2 years some landlords have wanted to raise the rent by $100/month, but depending on the spot and negotiating, they've either kept the rent the same or I've bailed. It's all about negotiating if you have good tenants and want to keep them
Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:45 pm to aldawg2323
I have rentals in Lafayette too. I have been remiss by keeping the rents the same for long term tenants.
Insurance and repair costs have really jumped and I've bumped up rents across the board. A couple of people have moved and I had some vacancies. But they rented out at the higher rates in a few months.
Most tenants stayed. One even commented "We were wondering when you were going to raise them."
I use Zillow and Realtor.com to see what the current market prices are.
Insurance and repair costs have really jumped and I've bumped up rents across the board. A couple of people have moved and I had some vacancies. But they rented out at the higher rates in a few months.
Most tenants stayed. One even commented "We were wondering when you were going to raise them."
I use Zillow and Realtor.com to see what the current market prices are.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:47 pm to aldawg2323
4 or 5% every few years. we have great tenants in both our rental properties, so we don't want to push them out. One finally signed a 2yr lease and I didn't raise rent but will next lease renewal by 4 or 5%.
You can't put a price on piece of mind with great tenants. I've heard countless bad tenant horror stories. I'd prefer to keep good tenants around than price them out, as long as I'm maintaining at least a 15% margin. They're doing us a favor by building our equity and wealth, I can do them a favor by not breaking their bank or forcing them to pay for another move.
You can't put a price on piece of mind with great tenants. I've heard countless bad tenant horror stories. I'd prefer to keep good tenants around than price them out, as long as I'm maintaining at least a 15% margin. They're doing us a favor by building our equity and wealth, I can do them a favor by not breaking their bank or forcing them to pay for another move.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:39 pm to aldawg2323
Every two-three years, normally comes with some type of upgrade we are doing as well.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:42 pm to aldawg2323
Are you near the university? At LSU, you know you’re under market rate if you start receiving multiple inquiries from old/expired listings.
If you can’t lean on a stream of students, you have to balance the potential headaches of the devil you don’t know by trying to squeeze higher rent.
If you can’t lean on a stream of students, you have to balance the potential headaches of the devil you don’t know by trying to squeeze higher rent.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:32 pm to lsuconnman
My rents collected cover the mortgage, enough to conduct upgrades every few years and show a little cash flow. My goal is to increase the values of the properties long term.
If you are already charging the right price, the only raises I'd apply would be to cover my tax increases.
If you are already charging the right price, the only raises I'd apply would be to cover my tax increases.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:10 pm to aldawg2323
In my experience it’s best to only raise rents when you change tenants. Most of my rentals are young tenants that aren’t there that long so raising the rent just pushes them to somewhere new.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:46 am to aldawg2323
I am not typical, but never raised rent on existing tenants. I tried to keep good tenants. I left money on the table, but was ok with it. Had several 10 year+ tenants. A bad renter can cause huge frustration, so I try to minimize. My goal from rentals was focused on long term returns vs cash flow while I was still working. All were paid off by the time I quit my day job.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 6:09 pm to KennytheTiger
I was talking to a guy who rents three of his prior homes. He said he has good tenants and keeps the rent a little below market to keep them there. Makes sense, considering the cost associated with turnover and possible vacant months.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 10:03 pm to aldawg2323
I have a couple that have leased my condo for the past 4 years. Raised rent last year after the crazy insurance jump. They are looking to be there long term and are great tenants.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:18 am to aldawg2323
Youngsville rentals here and im getting 1200 for some 2/2s. I do well enough that I don't have to raise the rent on current tenants. When its empty I will adjust the rent if need be. I have some long term renters that are getting a great rate. While I am missing out on some money I am also not having to chase them for rent, cleaning between tenants, and relisting all the time. If I needed to adjust to make my numbers works I would but I/they are lucky I don't have to at this time.
Big factor and why I don't mess with it while I have someone in a unit. You raise rent 100/month to gain a extra 1200/year on a 1200/month unit and your tenants decide to move out. You go one month of vacancy after that and you blew your extra cash flow.
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cost associated with turnover and possible vacant months
Big factor and why I don't mess with it while I have someone in a unit. You raise rent 100/month to gain a extra 1200/year on a 1200/month unit and your tenants decide to move out. You go one month of vacancy after that and you blew your extra cash flow.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 10:23 am
Posted on 3/16/25 at 1:38 pm to aldawg2323
1k rent for house is insanely low. Your house must be in a terrible neighborhood
Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:59 pm to ColoradoAg03
You can't put a price on piece of mind with great tenants. I've heard countless bad tenant horror stories. I'd prefer to keep good tenants around than price them out, as long as I'm maintaining at least a 15% margin
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How are you calculating your margin?
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How are you calculating your margin?
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:21 pm to ItzMe1972
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Insurance and repair costs have really jumped and I've bumped up rents across the board. A couple of people have moved and I had some vacancies. But they rented out at the higher rates in a few months.
You have to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze, though. Let's say rent is $1k and you want to bump it to $1,200. Tenant moves, and it takes you "a few months" (let's call that three) to rent it at the higher rate. Even ignoring the costs associated with getting the property ready for a new tenant, it's going to take you 15 months of the extra $200/mo to recuperate the $3k you lost by bumping the rent.
Obviously the math is going to work sometimes, but I would make sure the math really works before I went up on a good tenant.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:47 am to Joshjrn
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Obviously the math is going to work sometimes, but I would make sure the math really works before I went up on a good tenant.
I feel like new tenants is a game of Russian Roulette. A few hundred bucks aren’t worth the risk.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:01 am to Motownsix
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I feel like new tenants is a game of Russian Roulette. A few hundred bucks aren’t worth the risk.
It seems like the reason a lot of people struggle with being a landlord is that what they want to put in and what they want to get out don't match. If you want to be a full time landlord who relies on it as their sole or primary source of income, feel free to be a hard-nosed bastard nickle and diming everyone. On the other hand, if this is just a side hustle, or even more so, "passive income", then you're probably going to need to internalize that your return is going to a bit lower than the "ideal", because the ideal requires more time and energy than you want to invest.
And for the record, there's nothing wrong with that. Being a full time landlord sounds horrific. But if a couple hundred bucks a month is going to make or break you such that you can't wait for the natural turnover point, it might be time to give the paradigm a bit of thought.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:16 am to Joshjrn
"But if a couple hundred bucks a month is going to make or break you such that you can't wait for the natural turnover point, it might be time to give the paradigm a bit of thought."
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Valid points. But, $200/month times 10 properties makes a difference.
I keep my properties in great condition and increased rent affords me more room to make repairs and improvements. Otherwise, I may as well invest the money elsewhere.
Note: I do have a 20 year tenant who is paying about 60% of market rent. She is on Social Security (fixed income), but travels to Memphis and Galveston for vacation frequently.
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Valid points. But, $200/month times 10 properties makes a difference.
I keep my properties in great condition and increased rent affords me more room to make repairs and improvements. Otherwise, I may as well invest the money elsewhere.
Note: I do have a 20 year tenant who is paying about 60% of market rent. She is on Social Security (fixed income), but travels to Memphis and Galveston for vacation frequently.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:36 am to Joshjrn
I am not an expert by any means here (no rentals), but I feel like raising rent in very small amounts would be a much better idea than someone planting themselves in there for 5-6-7 years and you never raise the rent. Now if you have paid off properties, not a big deal, but if you have someone who moved in 5 years ago, charge them say $2k/mo which is making you enough to pay the note off plus a very small "profit" (really just cover longer term expenses), would it be wise to keep it $2k/mo for the last 5 years and you end now in the red between tax/ins increases during that time?
Just on my personal home taxes will have gone up $2k since 2020 and the insurance has gone up a few hundred bucks. The note with escrow to cover that in theory will have gone up by $200/mo...so if you were charging $2k/mo 5 years ago and that barely covered the note/expenses, seems like it would have been wise to slightly raise rent, maybe $25-$50/mo increments year over year, where it wouldnt drive people away as much, than put yourself in the red eventually by never raising the rent. Raising it by $200 in one go would push a lot more people out feels like than raising slowly over time.
I get not wanting to chase someone good away, but if you have someone planted in there for a long time on a non paid off property, eventually you gotta raise the rent and you'd probably lose them if you raised it dramatically to make up for years of not doing it.
Just on my personal home taxes will have gone up $2k since 2020 and the insurance has gone up a few hundred bucks. The note with escrow to cover that in theory will have gone up by $200/mo...so if you were charging $2k/mo 5 years ago and that barely covered the note/expenses, seems like it would have been wise to slightly raise rent, maybe $25-$50/mo increments year over year, where it wouldnt drive people away as much, than put yourself in the red eventually by never raising the rent. Raising it by $200 in one go would push a lot more people out feels like than raising slowly over time.
I get not wanting to chase someone good away, but if you have someone planted in there for a long time on a non paid off property, eventually you gotta raise the rent and you'd probably lose them if you raised it dramatically to make up for years of not doing it.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 10:38 am
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