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Torn miniscus options
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:10 am
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:10 am
Long story short, have a torn meniscus and have had minor swelling on knee. Have trouble bending knee more than 90 degrees without pain.
One time the swelling went way up cause I jogged and had to get knee drained and was given a steroid shot.
Since then am back to where I was before the jogging part, minor swelling and trouble bending more than 90 degrees.
What are my options besides getting it scoped, which I was told may lead to arthritis down the line. Maybe some knee strengthening exercises?
Appreciate the guidance!
Thanks
One time the swelling went way up cause I jogged and had to get knee drained and was given a steroid shot.
Since then am back to where I was before the jogging part, minor swelling and trouble bending more than 90 degrees.
What are my options besides getting it scoped, which I was told may lead to arthritis down the line. Maybe some knee strengthening exercises?
Appreciate the guidance!
Thanks
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:10 pm to Bamboozles
My son had a torn miniscus when he blew his ACL playing football. I don’t think you can do anything short of surgery. He couldn’t straighten his leg because the flap from the tear impeded full extension. It won’t repair in its own and after surgery you have to stay off it for like 6 weeks or it won’t heal….based on where the tear is.
Maybe you can just grind through it but that’s what the doc told us.
Maybe you can just grind through it but that’s what the doc told us.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 8:39 pm to Bamboozles
My sister had a small tear when she was in high school. Car wreck, and she had surgery to repair it. Crutches for about a month and after that she was fine. That was about 25 years ago and no arthritis.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 9:57 pm to SquatchDawg
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t won’t repair in its own
Read this over, and over OP. Like much connective tissue (my labrum) it doesn't heal itself, it just sits forever ripped, until it's fixed. You can take shot after shot, (in my case 18 months) and it's "fake fixed." And then it's not. Just get it scoped and move on with life. If you need an MRI, the worst part is the dye injection. You can spend a couple of months rehabbing it, or spend two years dancing around the issue, to either end up suffering for decades, or .... spending a couple of months rehabbing it. Rehab ain't hard, just don't be a cowboy.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:15 pm to Bamboozles
Tore my lateral meniscus in college
Very easy scope, 2 tiny incisions like 1/4 inch long
Ortho told me I was blessed with more meniscus starting out than most people have so what I lost after they clipped it off , didn’t really count against me in the long run.
A few days of PT and I was good to go. No trouble ever since and that’s been 15 years ago
Very easy scope, 2 tiny incisions like 1/4 inch long
Ortho told me I was blessed with more meniscus starting out than most people have so what I lost after they clipped it off , didn’t really count against me in the long run.
A few days of PT and I was good to go. No trouble ever since and that’s been 15 years ago
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:55 am to Bamboozles
You’ve completed the conservative measures and now it’s time for surgical.
I learned there are 3 reasons to consider surgery in a meniscal tear and they are pain that doesn’t respond to conservative treatment, prolonged swelling, and mechanical symptoms such as the knee locking or can’t fully extend it.
The surgery is very easy. You could have some earlier arthritis but I wouldn’t let that deter you from the surgery. You’ll be back to normal in a few months post therapy.
I learned there are 3 reasons to consider surgery in a meniscal tear and they are pain that doesn’t respond to conservative treatment, prolonged swelling, and mechanical symptoms such as the knee locking or can’t fully extend it.
The surgery is very easy. You could have some earlier arthritis but I wouldn’t let that deter you from the surgery. You’ll be back to normal in a few months post therapy.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:03 am to Bamboozles
Just get it scoped and move on. You’ll likely have arthritis at this point anyway. Just make sure you do the full therapy after to get back to full strength or you’ll be more prone to arthritis or re injury. Too many people just get to the point of feeling better and roll out. I think this is more detrimental over time than the surgery itself.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:13 am to Bamboozles
I had a severe meniscus tear in 2021, tons of pain and could barely walk.
Thanks to COVID, I had to wait about 6wks before getting an MRI so I had plenty of atrophy while I worried about my whole knee falling apart.
After the surgery consult, I chose to try rehabbing on my own. Logic: Surgery was $5K, recovery was going to be tough, and many patients report pain coming back later in life. If the rehab w/o surgery failed, I could always go back and have the surgery later.
I started Knees Over Toes Zero and progressed from there. Could barely do the movements at first, but now my knee is stronger than ever. Backward sled drags are magic. Zero regrets about not getting the surgery.
I lift, run, hike, you name it without pain.
Thanks to COVID, I had to wait about 6wks before getting an MRI so I had plenty of atrophy while I worried about my whole knee falling apart.
After the surgery consult, I chose to try rehabbing on my own. Logic: Surgery was $5K, recovery was going to be tough, and many patients report pain coming back later in life. If the rehab w/o surgery failed, I could always go back and have the surgery later.
I started Knees Over Toes Zero and progressed from there. Could barely do the movements at first, but now my knee is stronger than ever. Backward sled drags are magic. Zero regrets about not getting the surgery.
I lift, run, hike, you name it without pain.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 9:11 am to Bamboozles
Go see a good sports medicine doctor or a good PT. Not all meniscus injuries are the same. Many patients do well without surgery, some patients benefit from surgery.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:57 pm to NewOrleansBlend
Already seeing doc at BROC, will reach out and get update on what to do.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 12:58 pm to LSUfan20005
Someone else suggested knees over toes YouTube channel too......I saw lotta videos on there, can you suggest a good starting point video and progressive next videos please?
Posted on 3/8/25 at 1:47 pm to Bamboozles
Not an ortho but with your history of swelling/drainage/inability of full motion.. I don’t think knees over toes is a proper treatment . Your case sounds much more on the severe side and needs surgery
Posted on 3/8/25 at 2:59 pm to Bamboozles
I’d sign up for his ATG program “Zero” which is really introductory. Once you know it well, cancel subscription and keep going.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 12:50 pm to Bamboozles
Had surgery on mine almost exactly two years ago now. I was overweight and recovery took a bit longer because of that. Dropped about 50 pounds now and back to running. My knee only really bothers me when I am sitting at my desk for a while and then get up. After about 20 yards of walking its back to normal. It will never be 100%, but outside of going skiing or playing basketball I can do what I want. Im 41 for reference and was told regardless if I ran again or not Ill probably need knee replacement surgery in my mid 50's due to arthritis in both knees.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:13 pm to Bamboozles
I had mine both cleaned out in 2014 — one in early October and ran a 5k (slowly) in November. Had the other done right before Christmas.
Never had another days trouble. Before thawing them done, they hurt at night like a mthrfr and would be so stiff and swollen after a run, I just had to do something.
Best thing I did.
(Mine were not repairable)
Re: running and future arthritis: my doc was Adam Perry in Lafayette (played o line for lsu). He told me that he’d rather me run and be active and risk any arthritis that could be taken care of at a later date than do nothing and risk health issues from that. Tifwiw.
Never had another days trouble. Before thawing them done, they hurt at night like a mthrfr and would be so stiff and swollen after a run, I just had to do something.
Best thing I did.
(Mine were not repairable)
Re: running and future arthritis: my doc was Adam Perry in Lafayette (played o line for lsu). He told me that he’d rather me run and be active and risk any arthritis that could be taken care of at a later date than do nothing and risk health issues from that. Tifwiw.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:51 pm to tiger91
Depends on the injury. Cleaning the joint and trimming it with a scope is a breeze. And will only have you limited for a week or two but you can walk like 2-3 days after. A repair is a bit more complicated and will have you on crutches for about a month but will have a better chance of preserving the joint and preventing arthritis. I had a pretty significant tear of my medial meniscus with a full thickness chondral defect about the size of a nickel on the medial femoral condyle. Resulted in an open OATS procedure but ended up with complete collapse of the medial compartment of my knee with bone spurs forming. After another scope to clean up the joint but ended up with a tibial osteotomy eventually last June. Knee feels pretty good now and only real discomfort is full extension after sitting or driving for a long time. Pulling more weight on the sled than I was before all of this and pushing more weight with leg workouts. I was hurting for a while before finally getting it looked at after it started to catching and changing my gait. Very large joint effusion (fluid) was making things very uncomfortable and I decided it was time. Osteotomy wasn’t too bad minus crutches for 6 weeks. Got some nice hardware in there now hoping it keeps that integrity of the osteotomy for 20 years or so.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 2:27 pm to Bamboozles
Tore my lateral meniscus, doc looked at it and said no surgery because you’re not a professional athlete. It will take time but it will heal. It did full after about 12 months. It would occasionally feel like someone stabbed my knee with a knife but I haven’t had an issue in over 10 years other than a little cartilage crackling when walking down the stairs. I’m 46 now.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 3:57 pm to TX_Tiger23
I often do feel the cartilage cracking in my knee and do have pain in bending knee, otherwise not much an issue. Maybe am in same boat as you. Doc was also not too keen (though he kept that option open) on doing surgery
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:55 pm to Bamboozles
Everytime you tweak it, it will bleed and swelling up your knee. Get the scope done. You'll be up and going no problem in 2/3 weeks and back to exercise in 6.
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