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The Myth of Red State Gun Violence

Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:26 am
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:26 am
The Myth of Red State Gun Violence



One statistic that the gun-control crowd loves to toss around is that gun violence is highest in deep red states and lowest in deep blue states. And statistically speaking, they're correct. Per the CDC, the states with the highest per capita rates for gun murders are Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, Alabama, and Missouri. The states with the lowest rates are Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Hawaii, New Jersey, and New York.


So what's going on here? Is this simply a systemic problem of violent, gun totin', insurrectionist inbreds barreling through the backwoods in their pickup trucks, yeehawing and looking for my-NAHR-uh-ties to shoot? Could the coastal elites, for once, have the facts on their side?

Well, no. Because once you dig a little deeper, and you see exactly which regions of those "red states" are experiencing the most gun violence, the picture becomes clearer. In Mississippi, for example, the most violent per capita of "red states," there were 844 gun deaths in 2023. But within Mississippi, the area with the most gun violence was Leflore County.

In Missouri, the area with the most gun violence was the city of St. Louis. In Louisiana, the area with the most gun violence is Caddo Parish, home of Shreveport, one of the most violent cities in the nation. In New Mexico, the area with the most gun violence is Otero County. And in Alabama, the area with the most gun violence is Dallas County.

What do these areas have in common? Other than Otero County, all these violent areas have a majority black population.

But if you bring up these demographics, rest assured: USAFacts has pegged you for the racist you are, and has pre-empted your silly statistics. Gun violence, you see, is driven by "complex factors" such as "community conditions like poverty and racial or ethnic inequities (emphasis mine)."

Got that? If it's just "red states" we're talking about, then of course we can expect higher levels of gun violence from all you moonshine guzzlin', trailer park hillbillies. But if you break it down by communities within those states, then it's not so simple. Then there are "complex factors" at play. Your unconscious bias is what's causing gangbangers and drug dealers on the other side of the state to shoot each other, not their own stupid decisions.

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Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5866 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:27 am to
Look at a demographics map of these areas and you'll see why.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22643 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:28 am to
It’s actually blue city gun violence that is the problem
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17483 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:28 am to
People in the wrong hate facts.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91326 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Look at a demographics map of these areas and you'll see why.
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chicken, please close this thread now.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7860 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:31 am to
If you remove minorities from crimes committed with guns as a factor - the US has the same gun related crime rate as Belgium.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37067 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:31 am to
I can't say for sure but I would bet that the majority of those committing gun violence have a gun illegally. So, we have laws that prevent these people from possessing a firearm. So it's a weak argument.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:31 am to
Ah so you've found a correlation to gun violence and race. What other correlating factors did you look at with gun violence?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28096 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:37 am to
quote:


One statistic that the gun-control crowd loves to toss around is that gun violence is highest in deep red states and lowest in deep blue states.



I've never heard anyone make this claim. It's a given that gun-heavy rural areas are far safer than any modern shithole cities.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38544 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:37 am to
Can you glean these numbers from that site?


Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2571 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:41 am to
I suggest IQ as a possible factor. Dummies with low impluse control and guns.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27114 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:44 am to
If you remove gun violence from a single demographic, the US is one of the safest places in the world per capita.

Maybe that doesn't mean much because nobody is going to do anything about it, but it does highlight the fact that the issue goes beyond guns.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5776 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:45 am to
quote:

gun violence is highest in deep red states and lowest in deep blue states.
Red and blue aren't the significant colors when it comes to violence. It's black and white.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7617 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:46 am to
It's the BLUE Cities in those red states that are experinecing the rise, not the more suburban and rural red areas there
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22643 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:46 am to
It would be even more stark if we broke the violence down by political party lines. The left is just violent
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:48 am to
quote:

suggest IQ as a possible factor. Dummies with low impluse control and guns.

Probably a contributing factor. I'd also assume that poorer communities suffer more from gun violence as well if you look at average income or something similar.
Posted by GerasimosNina
Member since Jan 2025
125 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:59 am to
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Gun Violence


Such a stupid phrase…why aren’t the following terms also used?

Fist violence
Box cutter violence
Slap violence
Tire iron violence
Curb stomp violence
Knee violence
Choke violence
Sedan violence
Truck violence
And on and on and on


Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13754 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:02 am to
quote:

suggest IQ as a possible factor. Dummies with low impluse control and guns.

Probably a contributing factor. I'd also assume that poorer communities suffer more from gun violence as well if you look at average income or something similar.


Why are 'poorer communities' poor?

Are ALL poorer communities plagued with gun violence? Certain ones? Why?
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17084 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Gun Violence Such a stupid phrase

Yes!
Never in the history of guns has a gun committed an act of violence.

That’s a fact.
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
4001 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:13 am to
Stats are raciciss
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