When is DOGE going to investigate the USDA and farmers?

I doubt they'll go hard after farmers but will take a hard look at how we subsidize corn

You're not wrong, but no way you touch farmers before you actually go after welfare. Farmers can produce food, at least.

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Damn baw, did you get shunned from the farm life?

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The one guy who couldn't get laid on farmersonly.com

The few farmers I know in rural Louisiana are pretty hypocritical. They preach about hard work, American values, their wives post #farmlife shite all day. But yet they are subsidized to the gills. Welfare queens is correct. I know they do produce a product, but so does my business and we get little help from Uncle Sam.

And then they have the audacity to call out people "living off the government"

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Damn baw, did you get shunned from the farm life?

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No. I just have seen enough to know that there is fraud going on. I hate on farmers because they all stick together and refuse to call out the ones who are abusing the system. The abusers give all of the farmers a bad look and I think it is ridiculous that the farmers who play by the rules put up with it. It is not just the subsidies either. My family members pay thousand of dollars each year and spend countless hours filling out paperwork and putting up with the BS involved in the H2A visa program only to have at least 2 or 3 South Africans run off every year to work for someone who will pay them more but are not enrolled in the H2A program. The abusers are running for the system for the ones who play by the rules. I want it fixed for the farmers who play by the rules. Since farmers will not police themselves and report the bad actors in their ranks then someone has to do it.

Huge difference between Big Farma and farmers.

The amount of fraud/waste/abuse and government overreach re: ownership of land and punitive policies is likely beyond imagination.

Our GOV is subsidizing farms in Manhattan.

There is plenty of room to cut this crap without hurting real farmers, and the changes are all common sense.

Farmers are some of the biggest government welfare queens in the country. They need to compete against each other in the private sector and stop relying on then government and illegal immigrant labor to survive.

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If farmers were actually incentivized to grow Whole Foods then this would have big downstream benefits on our health, but big cost savings in healthcare.

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From my limited understanding of the issue it is impossible to do with today's agriculture environment. The days of the small farmer (<1000 acres) are ending quickly. The equipment, seeds, etc that are needed to grow crops is too expensive for small operations. Again my understanding of the issue is limited but I believe that it is impossible to "organic farming" or farming without the chemicals that are probably causing health problems and feed the country and the world's current population. For example, manure is the only fertilizer that can be used for organic farming and if farmers just use manure they are not going to be able to grow high enough yields to pay their bills if crop prices are low. They have to get paid a higher amount for growing "organic" just to break even. That causes food shortages and higher prices. However, that might not be a bad thing because if food costs more eventually Americans will eat less and the amount of food that the average Americans eat is more than what we are supposed to. So it is a problem that needs to be addressed but I do not have the answer.

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As someone who grew up in a family of farmers I can confidently say farmers are the biggest welfare queens in this country

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A lot of truth to this.