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Yes, Anti-Vaxxers, Polio did kill people.

Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:10 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54693 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:10 am
I saw a known anti-vaxxer on Facebook (where else) saying no one died from polio. I've seen others claim polio deaths were really other causes but were labeled polio deaths for convenience (sound familiar?). So.... I went and got from the Mississippi Department of Health the stats for polio deaths from 1920 to 1970.

Tota; 641 kids in just Mississippi died from Polio over a 50 year span.

1920: 17
1921: 17
1922: 16
1923: 14
1924: 17
1925: 25
1926: 27
1927: 20
1928: 21
1929: 15
1930: 13
1931: 15
1932: 24
1933: 10
1934: 20
1935: 10
1936: 21
1937: 59
1938: 22
1939: 16
1940: 14
1941: 19
1942: 11
1943: 11
1944: 6
1945: 10
1946: 14
1947: 3
1948: 6
1949: 8
1950: 14
1951: 41
1952: 28
1953: 10
1954: 16
1955: 6
1956: 12
1957: 3
1958: 1
1959: 9
1960: 4
1961: 4
1962: 0
1963: 4
1964: 1
1965: 0
1966: 0
1967: 1
1968: 0
1969: 0
1970: 0
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:12 am to
“ Anti Vaxer “ is such a fundamentally dishonest term and employed as a weapon by the very worst of the American Ruling Class to shame normies into compliance.

How about “ Big Pharma skeptic”?
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:13 am to
...and the Polio Vaccine was a real vaccine that worked.

Your point, Mr. Facebook "I Gots Muh Vaccine' Profile Picture?
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
8122 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:18 am to
now do the covid shot numbers
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78750 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:20 am to
If you were being honest, you would also note it was 24-years of mass polio vaccinations until we didn't have cases in the US.



With the covid shot we couldn't even go 3 months without getting breakthrough cases. Were you ready to take a booster every six months for 24 years?

This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56241 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:21 am to
The more interesting argument is that polio wasn't a specific disease, but actually the result of terrible food processing hygiene.

(This is not an endorsement of said theory)
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54693 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:22 am to
I have some friends who are in the anti-vaccine movement in my state. They were against vaccines before the covid shot. They don't think they should be required for schools at all. Here is one comment I saw on social media:

quote:

If you are older than 55 you likely remember at least some of the effects of polio. Polio is without a doubt a serious concern. However, with any degree of research, it is evident that the polio crisis had other health issues like arsenic and pesticide/herbicides lumped into the numbers.


quote:

take one hour to research arsenic and myelitis symptoms and you might hallucinate- cross reference with pesticides and you would see the fact that many cases defined as “poliomyelitis were the result of arsenic poisoning. Not saying all but many were-
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2307 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:22 am to
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Anti Vaxer “ is such a fundamentally dishonest term and employed as a weapon by the very worst of the American Ruling Class to shame normies into compliance.

Yes, opponents always try to re-frame their opponent's position. Pro choice doesn't mean pro abortion. Defunding the police doesn't mean to not fund public safety.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
21550 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:23 am to
Not a good case study for proponents of at least newly released vaccines, given the Cutter incident.

“ In what became known as the Cutter incident, some lots of the Cutter vaccine—despite passing required safety tests—contained live polio virus in what was supposed to be an inactivated-virus vaccine. Cutter withdrew its vaccine from the market on April 27 after vaccine-associated cases were reported.”

They gave kids polio with the vaccine.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 9:25 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:25 am to
Yes we all know these people. That’s why it’s EXCEPTIONALLY dishonest to expand that derogatory term to people who made the informed decision not to get the Covid jab. Particularly in light of the unprecedented social capital loss they faced. Not to mention loss of careers and family relationships and all the other shite.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12841 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:26 am to
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and the Polio Vaccine was a real vaccine that worked

It was not 100% effective.

Earlier polio vaccines had been 60–70% effective against PV1 (poliovirus type 1), over 90% effective against PV2 and PV3, and 94% effective against the development of bulbar polio
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1535 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:26 am to
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641 kids in just Mississippi died from Polio over a 50 year span.

As of today, the remaining folks who didn't die from Polio in this timeframe are also likely dead.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
14396 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:33 am to
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I saw a known anti-vaxxer on Facebook


Then tell them this. I think you’ll find that pretty much all on the OT or TD in general agree that polio killed people and that the vaccine and changes food processing safety measures put a stop to it.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54693 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:34 am to
I don't expand it to Covid vaccine. I totally get the opposition to it. Side effects were downplayed, Soviet tactics were used to enforce compliance, and it was forced on kids who didn't need it.

In my state we only lost a dozen or so kids to Covid. Imagine how people would freak out today if we lost 25-50 every year to it as we did for polio.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:34 am to
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It was not 100% effective.

Earlier polio vaccines had been 60–70% effective against PV1 (poliovirus type 1), over 90% effective against PV2 and PV3, and 94% effective against the development of bulbar polio

As opposed to the Covid 'vaccine' at 0%, unless you were trying to cause Myocarditis.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
7551 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:35 am to
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Yes, Anti-Vaxxers, Polio did kill people.


Are there actually people who argue that it didn't?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40396 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:35 am to
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Yes, Anti-Vaxxers, Polio did kill people


So in total it's killed less people than the Covid vaccine?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:36 am to
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the Covid jab

This is one of the dumbest things to survive the Covid era. This shite should have stayed in the UK where it started.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12841 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:36 am to
Yeah i didnt get the vax either and it shouldve never been required.i just find it funny that all these people will proudly proclaim that they thought vaccines were all 100% effective until covid
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125404 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:37 am to
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Pro choice doesn't mean pro abortion.


Yes it does

You support a woman being able to have an abortion
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