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Saints coaching search - media perspectives

Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:52 am
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1062 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:52 am
Here is another story on the coach search by Armando Salguero:

LINK

First off, he is 100% correct on the optics of the situation. However, that's not what's making me throw my laptop across the room.

It's this line from the piece: "'It's a clown show,' one New Orleans source said of the Saints current coaching search."

This is just like yesterday's "league perspectives" tweet from Josina Anderson.

It's not a source within the team, or another team, or the league. It's not anyone currently employed by any NFL entity. If it were, he would have said so. They say so all the time. It's also not from an agent, because they wouldn't be considered a "New Orleans" source.

There is only one other group it could possibly come from: a member of the media. Underhill, Triplitt, Duncan, Ross Jackson, or one of their ilk. He sourced a member of the media and went to press with that as a source. They are using each other as sources!

That means that while this article draws the same conclusion as many here, it has no more value than a posting by a regular Saints Rant moron joker. It's pathetic that a writer with the experience of Salguero is resorting to this sort of tactic, and it's clouding the discussion.

Take everything you read in the media with a massive grain of salt. It has no more value than a random post you click from here.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19157 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:55 am to
Yet we are going to wind up with the highest ceiling young OC outside of Ben Johnson.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71035 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:56 am to
quote:

However, that's not what's making me throw my laptop across the room.


Nothing about this bullshite franchise is worth throwing a laptop
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7345 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:58 am to
You can spin this anyway you want. It could be they were all in on Moore after original call. Could be everyone is backing out because the job sucks and Moore is last man standing.

Nobody knows. It’s all speculation. One thing is not speculation. The job sucks view is the easiest click bait in history.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5544 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Yet we are going to wind up with the highest ceiling young OC outside of Ben Johnson.


Debatable. Dallas and Jacksonville obviously feel differently as they likely have heard of Kellen Moore and did not show interest.

Moore is a good candidate/hire but for Jerry Jones to pass when he spent years in Dallas is a concern.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1062 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:02 am to
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Moore is a good candidate/hire but for Jerry Jones to pass when he spent years in Dallas is a concern.


With all due respect, Jerry Jones passing on a guy is a positive.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71035 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:02 am to
quote:

highest ceiling young OC outside of Ben Johnson.


Ehh. That’s certainly an opinion (and could turn out to be true) but not one likely shared by many teams. The jags and Dallas both interviewed him but he didn’t get a second interview.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 8:12 am
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5544 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:14 am to
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With all due respect, Jerry Jones passing on a guy is a positive.


Maybe, but the guy has also hired Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, and Mike McCarthy. Minimum 2 possibly 3 HOF coaches. Certainly better than Loomis’ hiring track record.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Dallas and Jacksonville obviously feel differently as they likely have heard of Kellen Moore and did not show interest. Moore is a good candidate/hire but for Jerry Jones to pass when he spent years in Dallas is a concern.


Use google please.


Literally all of Dallas including Troy Aikman is crying over Moore not getting the Cowboys job
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13934 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:21 am to
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Moore is a good candidate/hire but for Jerry Jones to pass when he spent years in Dallas is a concern.


They know him best and passed on him for Shottenheimer. That’s a big red flag to me. I would melt if we hired Schotty jr.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 8:22 am
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
3249 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:24 am to
Did Dallas pass on Moore or did Moore show no interest is working for Jerry Jones?

Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73974 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:36 am to
Agents use interviews as leverage. More interviews, more demand. I don’t see a scenario where Moore would return to Dallas
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20816 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:58 am to
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Maybe, but the guy has also hired Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, and Mike McCarthy. Minimum 2 possibly 3 HOF coaches. Certainly better than Loomis’ hiring track record.

Is Parcells a HOF based on anything he did with Dallas, or was he already a HOF coach and was hired out of retirement by Jerry for him to have minimal success (34 - 30 in regular season & 0-2 in postseason with Dallas)

You also have to give Jerry credit for Chan Gailey, Dave Campo & Jason Garett
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18811 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Moore is a good candidate/hire but for Jerry Jones to pass when he spent years in Dallas is a concern.



yea Jerry has been a beacon of wise decision making the past couple years.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42981 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:59 am to
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Maybe, but the guy has also hired Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, and Mike McCarthy. Minimum 2 possibly 3 HOF coaches.


He also hired Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Wade Phillips, and Jason Garrett.

That's 3 of 8 hires will possibly be HOF coaches, only one because of his time in Dallas. 37.5 %

quote:

Certainly better than Loomis’ hiring track record.



Loomis hired two coaches so far in NOLA. One is a possible (I'd say likely) HOF coach. 50%

Those don't seem to support your statement but maybe Loomis doesn't have enough of a sample size to determine that yet.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15911 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Did Dallas pass on Moore or did Moore show no interest is working for Jerry Jones?


Could be the latter because they did show interest in Moore early on, iirc it was Jones decision to out Moore as OC and bring in Schottenheimer not McCarthys. So Moore, having worked with the Jones clan before could have told them to kick rocks.

The Cowboys have been living on credit from the whole "America's Team" BS that died back in the 90's.

Dallas, mainly because of Jerry Jones and his sons is not a very desirable NFL location anymore. But they still have the media on their side pumping rainbows and unicorns for them.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:57 pm to
This is a serious frickikg cope lol

This org alizarin is an absolute shot show right now and that’s ok to admit
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