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Until ND wins the Natty the BK Freeman debate is moot
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:37 pm
Let us get this straight:
A round 1 or round 2 win in the current format is not the same as a playoff with in the 4 team format.
Georgia played without their starting QB. Imagine LSU playing without JB in 2019.
BK did win a playoff game and went to the NC. So they have to beat Penn State to equal that.
They have to better that by beating Texas or Ohio State. In that game they will be outgunned.
Also stop acting like BK was going 6-6 and 6-7 when he left. Look at NDs record before BK and his record at ND.
Also one season does not say anything. We went 15-0 with Ed Orgeron when we caught lighting in a bottle. Gene Chizik won a natty at Auburn and Jimbo Fisher won a natty. Where the he'll are they now.....fired.
Also the landscape of CFB has changed dramatically with NIL. Deep pockets at ND make recruiting far easier at ND...they play a easier schedule.
BK dreams of a natty got harder when he moved to LSU. Not the other way around.
In this era of NIlL and transfer portal, the curleys, EdO, Dinardos and Archers would not cut it.
We need a coach with brains to stay above water. Coaches like BK do not need to be here to win a natty.
A round 1 or round 2 win in the current format is not the same as a playoff with in the 4 team format.
Georgia played without their starting QB. Imagine LSU playing without JB in 2019.
BK did win a playoff game and went to the NC. So they have to beat Penn State to equal that.
They have to better that by beating Texas or Ohio State. In that game they will be outgunned.
Also stop acting like BK was going 6-6 and 6-7 when he left. Look at NDs record before BK and his record at ND.
Also one season does not say anything. We went 15-0 with Ed Orgeron when we caught lighting in a bottle. Gene Chizik won a natty at Auburn and Jimbo Fisher won a natty. Where the he'll are they now.....fired.
Also the landscape of CFB has changed dramatically with NIL. Deep pockets at ND make recruiting far easier at ND...they play a easier schedule.
BK dreams of a natty got harder when he moved to LSU. Not the other way around.
In this era of NIlL and transfer portal, the curleys, EdO, Dinardos and Archers would not cut it.
We need a coach with brains to stay above water. Coaches like BK do not need to be here to win a natty.
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:40 pm to mike4lsu
Why are you melting?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:40 pm to mike4lsu
You’re being too logical….. TR posters can’t handle logic.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:43 pm to mike4lsu
quote:when did he win a playoff game.
BK did win a playoff game and went to the NC.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:44 pm to mike4lsu
quote:
BK did win a playoff game
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:45 pm to mike4lsu
quote:
mike4lsu
SOS does not matter anymore. BCS is not here.
now it is make playoffs and win games like the NFL to win it all.
bottom line. DWI!
u are melting and coping hard kid
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:03 am to mike4lsu
BK Never won a playoff game. He won the ACC title - not the same thing.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:33 am to mike4lsu
CBK and LSU will be just fine. CBK will win a NC at LSU in the near future.
Kudos to Freeman, Golden, Denbrock. One could argue their path was easier, the league is more watered down, or they have an easier sked, but they’re in the big dance so kudos. CBK left ND in a much bette situation than what he got from Charlie Weis., and way better than what O left him. All good though. We’re in good hands
Kudos to Freeman, Golden, Denbrock. One could argue their path was easier, the league is more watered down, or they have an easier sked, but they’re in the big dance so kudos. CBK left ND in a much bette situation than what he got from Charlie Weis., and way better than what O left him. All good though. We’re in good hands
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:36 am to mike4lsu
Nope
Kelly hasn’t won a single ny6 bowl
Freeman just won two in the last week
Kelly hasn’t won a single ny6 bowl
Freeman just won two in the last week
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:39 am to MrSinnyman
quote:Their path included wins over USC and A&M - LSU is in the CFP if they do the same.
One could argue their path was easier,
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:55 am to mike4lsu
quote:
Look at NDs record before BK and his record at ND.
Here you go....
Kelly's Season Records w/Key Losses:
Notre Dame
2010 ... 8-5, Stan (37-14), Navy (35-17), Tulsa
2011 ... 8-5, USC (31-17), Stan (28-14), USF
*2012 ... 12-1, Bama (42-14), *Wins vacated (ineligible players)
*2013 ... 9-4, OU (35-21), Pitt, Mich, Stan, *Wins vacated (ineligible players)
2014 ... 8-5, Arzona State (55-31), USC (49-14), Northwestern, Louisville
2015 ... 10-3, Ohio State (44-28), Clemson, Stan
2016 ... 4-8, USC (45-27), Texas, MSU, Duke, Navy, Va Tech
2017 ... 10-3, Miami (41-8), Stan (38-20), UGA
2018 ... 12-1, Clemson (30-3)
2019 ... 11-2, Michigan (45-14), UGA
2020 ... 10-2, Clemson (34-10), Bama (31-14)
2021 ... 11-2, Cincinnati (24-13)
LSU
2022 ... 10-4, Tennessee (40-13), A&M (38-23), UGA (50-30)
2023 ... 10-3, FSU (45-24), Bama (42-28)
2024 ... 9-4, A&M (38-23), Bama (42-13), UF (27-16)
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:59 am to mike4lsu
quote:You’re wrong. Notre Dame hasn’t won a game in the playoff era until this year. Freeman has now won 3. Not sure ND ever won a BCS game, Kelly certainly never did.
BK did win a playoff game and went to the NC.
Kelly is a crap, fraudulent coach.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:10 am to mike4lsu
This is not a KeLLLLy team and the vast majority of guys getting PT are not BK guys. Of 22 starters, 16 were never part of the program under BK. Freeman isn't doing this with BK players, he's developed the talent and brought in some transfers in impactful positions and changed the culture. ND doesn't false start as much, they look ready to play at the start of games, they don't hang it up after a good half or after a bad half, and they never feel out of a game. The impending doom of KeLLLLy taking the ball to start the game and going 3 and out is gone. Players looking lost is gone. Post game press conferences of BK losing his shite is gone. Terrible use of timeouts on an every game basis gone. Marshall last year and NIU this year are baffling losses, only having 10 guys on the field against OSU was baffling. But MF seems to be doing something that BK never did, learn from the disasters.
Oh yeah, ND had vacated wins and BK got a kid killed.
Oh yeah, ND had vacated wins and BK got a kid killed.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:14 am to mike4lsu
I personally don’t think neither ND or Penn St would beat Ohio St for sure nor Texas probably in the championship game. Ohio State has just as good or better defense than both with a way more explosive offense.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:56 am to mike4lsu
Freeman has an excellent chance of winning an NC this year. When he does that coupled with another likely stumble out of the gate on the way to another sub par season by Kelly next year, LSU will be the laughing stock of college football.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 5:06 am to mike4lsu
Well they are 1 game away from it and we are sitting at home watching. I know what situation I'd rather be in.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 5:50 am to mike4lsu
You are wasting your time. The kids on here want to rant and riot....common sense is not allowed.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:35 am to mike4lsu
If ND wins it this year and next, I will be a believer in Freeman and Denbrock. Until that happens, I am of the opinion that BK built that team and staff.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:01 am to mike4lsu
quote:
BK did win a playoff game
Wrong
Lost 30-3 to Clemson in a playoff game in 2018
Lost 31-14 to Bama in a playoff game in 2021
They did play in the National Championship game in 2012, before the 4 team playoff existed, where they also got blown out 42-14 by Alabama.
So two playoff games and a national championship game they were selected to be in and he and Notre Dame lost those games by combined scores of 103 to 31.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 8:05 am
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:06 am to SOL2
quote:
I am of the opinion that BK built that team and staff.
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