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re: Notre Dame is the lovable underdog now. They wouldn’t be that with BK
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/10/25 at 10:56 pm to L S Usetheforce
quote:Brother only guys I know that say sus are creeps.
Stop call me brother bot. Only guys that I know say cringe are sus.
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re: Notre Dame is the lovable underdog now. They wouldn’t be that with BK
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/10/25 at 5:43 pm to L S Usetheforce
Brother you are delusional. And cringe. BK is not the answer to our problems. I’m just stating facts
re: Notre Dame is the lovable underdog now. They wouldn’t be that with BK
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/10/25 at 8:32 am to L S Usetheforce
quote:Nothing will have changed except Freeman brought a team to the national championship after winning three playoff games in a row I guess? BK brought them to a championship game after cheesing 6 games in an easy regular season schedule and then got blown out in the bowl game. Notre Dame had half their players on the field as second and third string starters these last three games due to injury. Our fanbase is delusional, we are not even close to Notre Dames talent and potential and that’s thanks to Freeman handling the current college football climate way better than BK. Freeman has brought in better talent than BK did in recruiting, he’s performing better in the portal. He’s way better at winning big games. Our fanbase is completely delusional after watching the physicality and talent of this Notre Dame team go 14-1 and punch a ticket to the natty and say nothing is changed between BK and Freeman. Frankly, it’s not even close. And Notre Dame fans are not even thinking about BK anymore as they have a top 3 if not the very best coach for the current college football climate in the country. How are we debating this. Annoying that half the threads on the boards are about Notre Dame. We sit here and say they’re delusional while THEY are playing for a national championship lol.
.nothing will have changed between BK and Freeman.
quote:this is absurd, is our fan base this delusional? Notre Dame is playing for a national championship because Freeman won three playoff games in a row. In these three games, half the players on the field for Notre Dame are second and third string due to so many injuries - so all these morons saying “they played Georgias backup!”is hilarious. And they still beat the SEC champ and Big 10 runner up. Brian Kelly was in a BCS championship because they cheesed like 6 games in an easy regular season schedule and then got blown out in the bowl game. Also, you must not know much about their roster because not even close to 75% of their starters are Brian Kelly recruits… man, what are you talking about. We are not even close to Notre Dames level and potential right now, and that is thanks to Brian Kelly being Brian Kelly. And Freeman being the perfect coach for the college football climate today, probably the best.
so if they lose, it will be Kelly saying "as I was saying....."
quote:when did he win a playoff game.
BK did win a playoff game and went to the NC.
quote:Haha it's not a narrative I'm trying to push, just my honest opinion. Got some rage in the thread today! There just wasn't a game in 2012 that Kelly won like last night. They made the BCS natty, and then they lost. Not sure what you mean by doesn't fit my narrative.
Doesn’t fit his narrative.
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:44 am to lsufball19
Fair enough. Just don't think he's our guy is all.
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:41 am to vidtiger23
In 2012 when they made the Natty? I mean that was back when there was no semifinal to win though? My only point is that Kelly never won the games that mattered the very most. Freeman has now won two win or go home games in a row. I feel like we give Kelly way too much credit (and far too much money).
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:37 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:'Makes no sense' seems a little harsh. I feel like that's not a crazy opinion? If Freeman gets blown out next week I'd certainly be surprised. But at the end of the day Freeman won a playoff game against the SEC champion. This is something Kelly never achieved is my only point.
That makes no sense. You're using hindsight against BK.
If Freeman gets blown out next week does that change your opinion?
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:34 am to lsufball19
quote:I'd say a team that won 2 of the last 3 national championships, is the current SEC champion, and has not lost a non conference game since 2016 is of similar caliber yes.
I'll ask again, has Freeman even played against a team even close to the caliber of the teams who have beaten Kelly in the CFP/BCS title game
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:31 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:In my opinion it's because they got blown out by that same team later in the year, and then got blown out by Alabama in the playoff. When it mattered most this year, they won the big game. I mean would you value a regular season win against the #1 team (who you go on to lose to at the end of the year) more than a playoff win against the SEC champion? I know what I'd prefer.
Why is beating a two loss SEC champion a better win than undefeated #1?
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:28 am to lsufball19
quote:I mean they got blown out by Clemson and Alabama that year when it mattered. I just don't see how you can say this isn't a bigger win for the program than Kelly ever had. It was a playoff win against the SEC champion. I'm confused how this is a debate.
Kelly beat #1 Clemson in 2020. Oddly enough, he played against a backup QB too in that game
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:25 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:Why is that a higher rated win? Compared to beating the SEC Champion in a playoff game? They proceeded to finish that season by getting blown out by Clemson and Alabama back to back. I don't follow how that's a better win at all.
He beat #1 Clemson in 2020, with their backup quarterback. That's automatically a higher rated win.
quote:Haha I'm not sure I follow. Not my intention at all.
Why are you dishonestly comparing apples to oranges?
re: Is ND that much better with Freeman??
Posted by tiger9394 on 1/3/25 at 11:18 am to SidewalkTiger
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Because most of this isn't true?
I mean fair enough, but give me a Brian Kelly win that was better than winning a playoff game (their second straight win), and on top of that, winning a playoff game against the SEC Champion (who was also starting said backup quarterback in the SEC championship game). I don't think there's a win that is even close for Kelly. So why is that not true?
quote:To be fair Freeman has now won two playoff games, Kelly never won any. Kelly never beat a powerhouse like Georgia either. I think his best win was like 13 years ago against a pretty good Oklahoma? I'm not sure though.
Because they haven't accomplished anything that Kelly didn't, yet.
quote:That's an interesting perspective. Take a look at the classes kelly was signing up until 2020, and then look at how much they jumped talent wise once Freeman took over. He has signed the number 7 class and the number 9 class two out of three years, number 12 the other year. Two top ten classes in three years. I think Kelly cracked the top ten twice maybe in his entire time there? Early on Kelly had a couple good classes similar to Freeman's, but the last few years was signing weak classes. Not sure where you're getting your recruiting info but let me know what I might be missing.
You must not keep up with recruiting, because this isn’t true.
quote:Why is this not true exactly? Last night was a better win than Kelly ever had for them. They're saying the best win in 32 years for the Notre Dame program. Their recruiting classes have been way better for three years straight than any of Kellys. The talent level isn't even close when you also take into account portal players acquired. I don't understand why anyone would say that it's not true? Help me understand that.
This just isn't true. It might be in the future, but not right now. I really like Freeman, by the way.
quote:I mean.. you do know they played and beat Georgia by two scores last night right?
Army was their best win. That's sad right there
quote:Not an elite team in the league? Ohio State? Have you watched their performances in the playoff? Notre Dame is playing at an elite level compared to when Brian Kelly was there, and it's not even close. They are bigger, faster, stronger and bringing in way more talent than ever. Not sure what you're watching. There are elite teams, Georgia isn't anymore.
The SEC was obviously better than they are now when Kelly was at ND. NIL and the portal has absolutely weakened the SEC’s grip on college football. There is not an elite team in the league.
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