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Biden considering pardoning Mark Milley

Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:22 am


Yeah, because he committed fricking treason by conspiring with his CCP counterpart to undermine Trump, almost single-handedly destroyed our military, and not to mention the Afghanistan shite show.

Trump, ignore all the pardons and just say that if Biden was deemed too mentally incompetent to stand a trial, then he’s also too mentally incompetent to issue a pardon.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 9:30 am
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33948 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:24 am to
Pardon him for what crime? You can't issue a pardon for a crime that has not been prosecuted.
Posted by bamaswallows
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
1194 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:25 am to
Hunters pardon did just that, tho
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
37386 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:28 am to
Trump should just remain quiet until he gets in office, and then do WHATEVER IT TAKES to sic the legal dogs on these traitors. Find a way to make their lives miserable. They earned it.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
33018 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:31 am to
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Pardon him for what crime? You can't issue a pardon for a crime that has not been prosecuted.


Of course the president can. The president's pardon ability is relatively absolute.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 9:32 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:36 am to
"If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about" they told us. Why are they pre-emptivly pardoning people?
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
15084 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:40 am to
all that fake insignia on his uniform
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:41 am to
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Pardon him for what crime? You can't issue a pardon for a crime that has not been prosecuted.


Oh yes the president can. Think Hunter going back to 2014.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:41 am to
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You can't issue a pardon for a crime that has not been prosecuted.
Of course he can.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:43 am to
I assume this then covers a court martial? Milley has to be called back to active service to then be court martialed.

Biden will do this. Before Trump lays waste to the general officer corps in the military.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13422 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:45 am to
Seems like an impeachable offense I recal liberal legal scholars claiming trump could be impeached after leaving office
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:46 am to
Retirees still fall under UCMJ after service. Good luck getting around that if someone actually held him accountable
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33649 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:51 am to
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You can't issue a pardon for a crime that has not been prosecuted.

That's exactly what Gerald Ford did with Nixon.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:51 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:53 am to
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That's exactly what Gerald Ford did with Nixon.


And it has never been tested and likely never will be, as I'm sure the DOJ has internal regulations on prosecuting people for crimes within the impact of a pardon. That's the only way this could ever be litigated up to the Supreme Court, for those who don't understand the process.

So, it's the de facto rule in relative perpetuity.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:53 am to
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Pardon him for what crime? You can't issue a pardon for a crime that has not been prosecuted.

lol
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33649 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:55 am to
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And it has never been tested and likely never will be, as I'm sure the DOJ has internal regulations on prosecuting people for crimes within the impact of a pardon. That's the only way this could ever be litigated up to the Supreme Court, for those who don't understand the process.

So, it's the de facto rule in relative perpetuity.

Toss in Burdick and the imputation of guilt when accepting a pardon, and I tend to agree that this is the way that it will be indefinitely.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:56 am to
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Retirees still fall under UCMJ after service. Good luck getting around that if someone actually held him accountable


UCMJ is Title 10 in the US Code, so I'm sure any UCMJ offenses would be argued to be federal, rightfully so. That said, they could recall him and go administrative. They could also recall him and just wait for him to violate the UCMJ in some way, and then hammer him.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19808 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:57 am to
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Toss in Burdick and the imputation of guilt when accepting a pardon, and I tend to agree that this is the way that it will be indefinitely.


This is lawyer talk. What does it mean for the rest of us? Is there an attorney and case board on TDs?

It appears anyone with culpability in any wrong doing has their name on a piece of paper in the pardon bag.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452765 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:01 am to
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This is lawyer talk.


My response was pretty straightforward with non-lawyer talk.
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