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Original topic, I know, but the injuries to this franchise is beyond absurd. It's obscene
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:09 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:09 am
We've had only a few weeks of the season and almost if not every starter is already injured. This does not happen to other teams, or especially winning franchises. Fans can't rally behind a team that is always beat up with a lazy superstar who is made of glass (but, like Eric Gordon, will probably play 75 games in a season as soon as he's traded). I've seen what this franchise can be when we win and there's passion, but there's none of that right now that I can tell. I'm not going to watch a valiant effort by our bench while our superstars are nursing contusions, bruised egos, hyperextended pinkies, etc.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:18 am to schwartzy
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This does not happen to other teams, or especially winning franchises
It's pretty rampant in the league right now. Players are not tough or trained to play through pain or injuries. Rest and treatment are not the answer. Honestly, we have all become weaker as a society and would be unable to withstand common conditions from 50-60 years ago. Just as a personal example, my a/c was out for a few days a while back. I was miserable and couldn't sleep. I could barely function.
It's amazing to look back and see the previous conditions and how players were able to play 80+ games every season with harsher travel, accommodations and nutrition. It was a mindset and an expectation. Guys couldn't miss games or they weren't going to get paid.
This all goes back to NBA contracts and why the NFL is king. Guaranteed contracts are poison. There has to be an out for teams to get rid of players that can't perform. The union needs to be humbled and they need to put in protections. The Zion contract might be a sign of things to come..
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:23 am to brmark70816
George McGinnis, a star power forward in the 70s for the Denver Nuggets, used to smoke 2 cigarettes in the lockerroom during halftime.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:29 am to schwartzy
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This does not happen to other teams, or especially winning franchises.
I would argue the Clippers have been equally injury cursed going all the way back to Danny Manning. I'm not saying its normal, but it happens...to the Pels and Clippers.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:37 am to brmark70816
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It was a mindset and an expectation.
It was also less physical and they moved less with that physicality. The burden on modern bodies is much worse AND since the game is played at an extremely higher explosive level, any drop off in physical ability is amplified.
Teams are much smarter at hunting weak links today as well
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:46 am to schwartzy
I blame LeBron.
It feels like he was the first big star to push the narrative that, although his team owner pays him 9 figures to play basketball, that man does not "own him".
The players have allegiance to no one except themselves collectively, and it feels like its almost encouraged to push back against team management if they encourage you to play with an injury, illness, mental issues, etc.
And of course there's the Nola market, where the media is just appreciative of an injury report at all, and rarely pushes back with questions about updates, timelines, etc.
It feels like he was the first big star to push the narrative that, although his team owner pays him 9 figures to play basketball, that man does not "own him".
The players have allegiance to no one except themselves collectively, and it feels like its almost encouraged to push back against team management if they encourage you to play with an injury, illness, mental issues, etc.
And of course there's the Nola market, where the media is just appreciative of an injury report at all, and rarely pushes back with questions about updates, timelines, etc.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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It was also less physical
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:18 am to TeddyPadillac
It was physical in a way that caused fewer injuries.
Today's game involves much more running, because of how many 3s are shot. So, offensive players are constantly running around the 3-pt line, and defenders are covering much more space.
In the old days, the illegal defense rules meant that there was much less doubling and defensive rotation compared to today.
So, the risk of leg injury is much higher in today's game.
Today's game involves much more running, because of how many 3s are shot. So, offensive players are constantly running around the 3-pt line, and defenders are covering much more space.
In the old days, the illegal defense rules meant that there was much less doubling and defensive rotation compared to today.
So, the risk of leg injury is much higher in today's game.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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It was also less physical
In a word, no.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:39 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:47 am to GOP_Tiger
It's basketball. You can try to justify how the game is played all you want. Injuries are going to happen b/c it's an intense game played at a high speed that involves a lot of physical contact.
There aren't more injuries today than 30 years ago b/c of the style of play. There's just more coddled pussies today.
BI didn't even get hurt in a game. Why the hell is he not playing? First it was his ankle, now his calf? what is it? 30+ years ago whatever this injury was is not something that would have even been mentioned by the player to the medical staff, so they woudl never have a reason to hold the player out b/c they'd have no idea he had some lingering issue. He'd just suck it up and go play ball.
There aren't more injuries today than 30 years ago b/c of the style of play. There's just more coddled pussies today.
BI didn't even get hurt in a game. Why the hell is he not playing? First it was his ankle, now his calf? what is it? 30+ years ago whatever this injury was is not something that would have even been mentioned by the player to the medical staff, so they woudl never have a reason to hold the player out b/c they'd have no idea he had some lingering issue. He'd just suck it up and go play ball.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:16 am to TeddyPadillac
People love to only think of the 80s with the clothesline's and crazy hard fouls that happened a handful of times a game.
Watch a 1985 Lakers-Celtis Finals game, the height of intensity...
And it's laughable watching them play compared to an NBA regular season game in November nowadays.
Today's game is infinitely faster and very obviously more physical. It's really not close.
Again, go watch 1 of those games. Every offensive set is completely in slow motion, it's hard to even fathom that is the best of the best the NBA had to offer with some of the best to ever play the game when you go back and watch it now.
Watch a 1985 Lakers-Celtis Finals game, the height of intensity...
And it's laughable watching them play compared to an NBA regular season game in November nowadays.
Today's game is infinitely faster and very obviously more physical. It's really not close.
Again, go watch 1 of those games. Every offensive set is completely in slow motion, it's hard to even fathom that is the best of the best the NBA had to offer with some of the best to ever play the game when you go back and watch it now.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:17 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:This is a wild take, they're really barely playing the same sport nowadays.
There aren't more injuries today than 30 years ago b/c of the style of play.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:37 am to shel311
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Today's game is infinitely faster and very obviously more physical. It's really not close.
How can it be more physical if you aren't allowed to hand check?
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:44 am to brmark70816
quote:People talk about the hand check as if it was a magical defensive move. A hand check wasn’t stopping anyone. If a player had to rely on hand checking, he was already beat anyway. The NBA today doesn’t allow hand checking, but they allow what would have been illegal defense back then.
How can it be more physical if you aren't allowed to hand check?
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:52 am to shel311
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Today's game is infinitely faster and very obviously more physical. It's really not close.
The game is without question infinitely faster today and guys have to be in phenomenal shape just to keep up, which in its own way leads to more injuries. However, I don’t think there is the same level of physicality based on how the game is called these days.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 11:54 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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It was also less physical
You serious Clark?
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:59 am to LSUgrad88
quote:I understand it's not the best retort on a message board, but all I can say is go to Youtube and watch a 1985 NBA Finals Game.
However, I don’t think there is the same level of physicality based on how the game is called these days.
You can watch 1 quarter, and it's painfully obvious how the game just isn't physical like we remember it to be, and not as physical as today's game, or even close to it honest.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 12:01 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
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You serious Clark?
Congrats on picking out a series of five gifs from a 2-decade span.
You could do the same thing for the current iteration of the NBA from 2004-2024
Posted on 11/27/24 at 12:02 pm to shel311
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I understand it's not the best retort on a message board, but all I can say is go to Youtube and watch a 1985 NBA Finals Game.
Then go watch the 1989 eastern conference finals.........
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