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Original topic, I know, but the injuries to this franchise is beyond absurd. It's obscene

Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:09 am
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9931 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:09 am
We've had only a few weeks of the season and almost if not every starter is already injured. This does not happen to other teams, or especially winning franchises. Fans can't rally behind a team that is always beat up with a lazy superstar who is made of glass (but, like Eric Gordon, will probably play 75 games in a season as soon as he's traded). I've seen what this franchise can be when we win and there's passion, but there's none of that right now that I can tell. I'm not going to watch a valiant effort by our bench while our superstars are nursing contusions, bruised egos, hyperextended pinkies, etc.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11224 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:18 am to
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This does not happen to other teams, or especially winning franchises


It's pretty rampant in the league right now. Players are not tough or trained to play through pain or injuries. Rest and treatment are not the answer. Honestly, we have all become weaker as a society and would be unable to withstand common conditions from 50-60 years ago. Just as a personal example, my a/c was out for a few days a while back. I was miserable and couldn't sleep. I could barely function.

It's amazing to look back and see the previous conditions and how players were able to play 80+ games every season with harsher travel, accommodations and nutrition. It was a mindset and an expectation. Guys couldn't miss games or they weren't going to get paid.

This all goes back to NBA contracts and why the NFL is king. Guaranteed contracts are poison. There has to be an out for teams to get rid of players that can't perform. The union needs to be humbled and they need to put in protections. The Zion contract might be a sign of things to come..
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
2160 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:23 am to
George McGinnis, a star power forward in the 70s for the Denver Nuggets, used to smoke 2 cigarettes in the lockerroom during halftime.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:29 am to
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This does not happen to other teams, or especially winning franchises.


I would argue the Clippers have been equally injury cursed going all the way back to Danny Manning. I'm not saying its normal, but it happens...to the Pels and Clippers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466852 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:37 am to
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It was a mindset and an expectation.


It was also less physical and they moved less with that physicality. The burden on modern bodies is much worse AND since the game is played at an extremely higher explosive level, any drop off in physical ability is amplified.

Teams are much smarter at hunting weak links today as well
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7697 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:46 am to
I blame LeBron.

It feels like he was the first big star to push the narrative that, although his team owner pays him 9 figures to play basketball, that man does not "own him".

The players have allegiance to no one except themselves collectively, and it feels like its almost encouraged to push back against team management if they encourage you to play with an injury, illness, mental issues, etc.

And of course there's the Nola market, where the media is just appreciative of an injury report at all, and rarely pushes back with questions about updates, timelines, etc.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29815 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:10 am to
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It was also less physical
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20725 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:18 am to
It was physical in a way that caused fewer injuries.

Today's game involves much more running, because of how many 3s are shot. So, offensive players are constantly running around the 3-pt line, and defenders are covering much more space.

In the old days, the illegal defense rules meant that there was much less doubling and defensive rotation compared to today.

So, the risk of leg injury is much higher in today's game.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
8379 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:37 am to
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It was also less physical


In a word, no.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:39 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29815 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:47 am to
It's basketball. You can try to justify how the game is played all you want. Injuries are going to happen b/c it's an intense game played at a high speed that involves a lot of physical contact.
There aren't more injuries today than 30 years ago b/c of the style of play. There's just more coddled pussies today.

BI didn't even get hurt in a game. Why the hell is he not playing? First it was his ankle, now his calf? what is it? 30+ years ago whatever this injury was is not something that would have even been mentioned by the player to the medical staff, so they woudl never have a reason to hold the player out b/c they'd have no idea he had some lingering issue. He'd just suck it up and go play ball.
Posted by Patfic15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
4223 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 9:24 am to
frick this team.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:16 am to
People love to only think of the 80s with the clothesline's and crazy hard fouls that happened a handful of times a game.


Watch a 1985 Lakers-Celtis Finals game, the height of intensity...

And it's laughable watching them play compared to an NBA regular season game in November nowadays.


Today's game is infinitely faster and very obviously more physical. It's really not close.

Again, go watch 1 of those games. Every offensive set is completely in slow motion, it's hard to even fathom that is the best of the best the NBA had to offer with some of the best to ever play the game when you go back and watch it now.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:17 am to
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There aren't more injuries today than 30 years ago b/c of the style of play.
This is a wild take, they're really barely playing the same sport nowadays.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11224 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:37 am to
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Today's game is infinitely faster and very obviously more physical. It's really not close.


How can it be more physical if you aren't allowed to hand check?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27871 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:44 am to
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How can it be more physical if you aren't allowed to hand check?
People talk about the hand check as if it was a magical defensive move. A hand check wasn’t stopping anyone. If a player had to rely on hand checking, he was already beat anyway. The NBA today doesn’t allow hand checking, but they allow what would have been illegal defense back then.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
8379 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:52 am to
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Today's game is infinitely faster and very obviously more physical. It's really not close.


The game is without question infinitely faster today and guys have to be in phenomenal shape just to keep up, which in its own way leads to more injuries. However, I don’t think there is the same level of physicality based on how the game is called these days.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 11:54 am
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8152 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:53 am to
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It was also less physical


You serious Clark?









Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:59 am to
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However, I don’t think there is the same level of physicality based on how the game is called these days.
I understand it's not the best retort on a message board, but all I can say is go to Youtube and watch a 1985 NBA Finals Game.


You can watch 1 quarter, and it's painfully obvious how the game just isn't physical like we remember it to be, and not as physical as today's game, or even close to it honest.


Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79195 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 12:01 pm to
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You serious Clark?



Congrats on picking out a series of five gifs from a 2-decade span.

You could do the same thing for the current iteration of the NBA from 2004-2024
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8152 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 12:02 pm to
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I understand it's not the best retort on a message board, but all I can say is go to Youtube and watch a 1985 NBA Finals Game.


Then go watch the 1989 eastern conference finals.........
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