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Update carbon capture plant
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:50 am
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:50 am
I heard from an Allen parish police jury employee that the plant in Allen parish is a go. Seems that Exxon and Oxy are pumping alot of money into the area. One school just got 250,000 for lights for the softball and baseball fields. Also money has been given to the school board for scholarships. Only one police jury member is fighting the opening of the plant. There have been alot of meetings in Oberlin and alot of promises made. As one official said high risk high reward. One other thing this is all a federal govt. push and the name Soros keeps coming up. Reasons 1001 to vote Republican and not Democrat.
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:53 am to elmo 57
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As one official said high risk high reward
What's the risk, exactly?
I mean they may be overpriced and a net waste of money, but what is the risk to the public?
From what little I've read it sounds like the same shite Leftists argued about the Keystone pipeline
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 6:55 am
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:54 am to elmo 57
Any big money project in Allen Parish will be a boondoggle for the handful of people who get paid off to do things there.
Is it too late to move to Kinder? Have the checks already cleared?
Is it too late to move to Kinder? Have the checks already cleared?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:02 am to elmo 57
Relax, if Trump wins all this pork money should be gone.
Carbon dioxide is heavier than the air you breathe and if there is a release then everything around the release is basically suffocated due to lack of oxygen.
We need to leave nature alone
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What's the risk, exactly?
Carbon dioxide is heavier than the air you breathe and if there is a release then everything around the release is basically suffocated due to lack of oxygen.
We need to leave nature alone
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 7:06 am
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:17 am to Barneyrb
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Carbon dioxide is heavier than the air you breathe and if there is a release then everything around the release is basically suffocated due to lack of oxygen.
Gotcha, so lefty environmental fear mongering like the fear over Keystone
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:33 am to Barneyrb
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Relax, if Trump wins all this pork money should be gone.
I may end up being wrong, but I don’t think President Trump is going to complete gut the carbon credit Ponzi scheme. He probably should, but I don’t believe he will.
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Carbon dioxide is heavier than the air you breathe and if there is a release then everything around the release is basically suffocated due to lack of oxygen.
CO2 injection wells are operated safely all over the Permian Basin for the purpose of secondary oil recovery. Have been for 50 years.
I don’t believe in this carbon capture game, nor do I believe tax dollars should be funding these “credits”. However, the fear mongering of some huge catastrophic disaster is what you’d normally hear from the Left…like people’s kitchen faucets all blowing up because of fracking.
CO2 can be and has been handled safely by the O&G and Petrochemical industries for decades.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 7:36 am
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:37 am to elmo 57
I can’t believe people are stupid enough to fall for that.
But the average person these days is no smarter than the average lemming it seems.
But the average person these days is no smarter than the average lemming it seems.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:44 am to elmo 57
Any idea where in Allen Parish is the planned installation of the plant?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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I mean they may be overpriced and a net waste of money, but what is the risk to the public?
Higher energy costs and potential seepage.
The process requires massive amounts of fossil-fuel-generated electricity to create the chemical solvent material used to capture CO2 at the plant source. This then creates a toxic sludge which is transported by fossil-fuel vehicles to a site.
This site, built with fossil-fuel-running machinery, has a ~2-5 mile hole drilled using fossil fuels.
The toxic sludge is then injected, using energy provided by fossil fuels, into the ground. Here's where the potential seepage issue occurs because there's no guarantee that it will not leak.
A good example of this is the California Aliso Canyon gas leak in 2015. Granted, this was methane instead of CO2 sludge, but the scenario is the same.
Another is a recent leak in Decatur, Illinois.
Another is the CO2 pipeline explosion in Mississippi.
The only gain here is from the companies getting grants and tax incentives from the government creating an offset to energy companies which are not being passed down to the consumer. Without these, there's no way energy companies would be touching the technology (outside of its historical use of coaxing out more oil).
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:53 am to ragincajun03
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I don’t believe in this carbon capture game, nor do I believe tax dollars should be funding these “credits”. However, the fear mongering of some huge catastrophic disaster is what you’d normally hear from the Left…like people’s kitchen faucets all blowing up because of fracking.
Exactly.
A bunch of NIMBY "conservatives" literally using Environmentalist arguments.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:55 am to elmo 57
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 10/30/24 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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Gotcha, so lefty environmental fear mongering like the fear over Keystone
LINK
You may like this NLM document on some cases involving CO2 caused deaths. But if you don't want to read it, I'll just sum it up by saying, it's no more risk than any other Chemical Manufacturing process.
So unless there are some unknown geological problems that arise decades from now, the means of capturing do not pose a new risk.
I personally have concerns on the acidification of fresh water bodies, if the CO2 can permeate through the rock layer over a few decades. But even if it does, those fresh water bodies should refresh themselves many times over.
I also would hope we are working on a process to Chemically Engineer Photosynthesis. Then we could just turn the CO2 back to O2 and C2.
There is a process for CO2 to go to Methanol, this may end up being the most viable answer.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 8:19 am to Barneyrb
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Carbon dioxide is heavier than the air you breathe and if there is a release then everything around the release is basically suffocated due to lack of oxygen.
That is an oversimplification. Although an escape is possible, it very unlikely; it would probably be in the middle of nowhere; and because the surrounding area is as flat as a pancake, it would spread and dissipate.
Now if you did this in a hilly region it would be a concern. I’ll add that all around the perimeter of the rock cap, that forms the upside down bowl that is the reservoir, there are monitoring wells that will show if the CO2 is getting close to an escape.
In short, this is very safe.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 8:50 am to elmo 57
Another complete waste of taxpayer money just like ethanol. The amount of electricity and fossil fuel used leaves no juice and a lot of squeezing. Without subsidies it’s DOA what’s that tell you?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 8:52 am to Penrod
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it would probably be in the middle of nowhere;
I think being considered this is their biggest issue
Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:06 am to Penrod
The pipelines pose a risk.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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what is the risk to the public?
I certainly trust OxyChem without question, the folks who brought you Love Canal.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:25 am to Bard
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This then creates a toxic sludge which is transported by fossil-fuel vehicles to a site
What toxic sludge is being injected?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:42 am to elmo 57
It needs to be shut down. There is no issue with 'too much carbon dioxide' and thus, things like this can only frick up nature. People wanting this are two things - greedy and stupid.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 9:50 am to BobABooey
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I certainly trust OxyChem without question, the folks who brought you Love Canal.
Occidental bought the company (Hooker Chemical) that brought you Love Canal. Then spent millions and millions, rightfully so, trying to clean it up.
Just FYI.
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