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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:54 am
Posted by GA Tiger
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:54 am
We didn't think that he was going to come in the game, so him coming in the game caught us off guard. We didn't really know what runs they were going to run. Them doing that opened the game up for them in terms of what they were doing on offense.''

I appreciate his honesty. But is inexcusable for a Coaching staff not to prepare some for Reed.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:55 am to
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We didn't think that he was going to come in the game, so him coming in the game caught us off guard. We didn't really know what runs they were going to run. Them doing that opened the game up for them in terms of what they were doing on offense.''


wtf

How does that even happen

That is inexcusable, honestly.
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 9:59 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83075 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:56 am to
I would have thought they might have tried to prepare for a&m possibly inserting a Reed package or 2 no matter how Weigman performed, just to change things up a bit
Posted by Geauxtigersgeaux12
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
2421 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:59 am to
I thought he said they had a good game plan but didn't execute? Were the players unprepared or did the coaches not prepare? Both are coaching issues but one is negligence if they didn't prepare at all.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:00 am to
They did have a good gameplan. It was so good that the other team benched the starter. They just didn't have a gameplan for the backup.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:09 am to
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They did have a good gameplan. It was so good that the other team benched the starter. They just didn't have a gameplan for the backup.



this

Bakers game plan was so honed in we completely forgot about Reed
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:13 am to
We are prepared for that scheme. Other opponents run it. Arkansas does a lot of the same. I can see the first possesion being caught off guard. But after that we should know thos roles and assignments.
Posted by skullhawk
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:17 am to
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How does that even happen

That is inexcusable, honestly.


they get four two hour practices and a walk through. How much time do you suggest they devote do gameplanning for the backup qb?

It wouldn't have been as bad without the short fields.

I'm still not sure why you can't get your guys together and coach up a fix in game. It's a numbers game. Get more guys crashing the mesh. Make Reed beat you with his arm.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9505 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:18 am to
Penn gives his all when he plays. Not the fastest but always high on effort.We'll miss him next year...
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101868 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:20 am to
I know you can't devote a bunch of prep time to the backup QB. But Weigman hasn't been setting the world on fire and Reed started 3 games. Given the differences in their style of play, there should have been some preparation for him coming in the game.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:21 am to
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They did have a good gameplan. It was so good that the other team benched the starter. They just didn't have a gameplan for the backup.


Thought this all day yesterday when reflecting on the game. Still doesn’t account for the Nuss meltdown.
Posted by AD23
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:24 am to
that quote is more telling about baker than anything. you are the highest paid DC is college football. you cant adjust at all? you dont have a back up plan? you were not prepared at all for the backup QB that had played in multiple games? you saw weigmann struggling and assumed he wouldnt get benched?

just flat out stupid
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Member since Apr 2008
10490 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:25 am to
quote:

wtf

How does that even happen

That is inexcusable, honestly.



Here is Marcel Reed's stat lines for every game Weigman has started all year long prior to the LSU game.

Notre Dame (did not play)
McNeese - (Weigman injured with score 35-0) 5/11 passing 71 yards ; 7/43 rushing
Missouri - (entered game in 4th quarter with score 41-7) 0 pass attempts ; 1 rush for -4 yards
Mississippi State (did not play)

the total number of snaps he has taken from a healthy Weigman in a competitive game - ZERO.

no coaching staff anywhere in America is dedicating any significant practice time preparing for a backup that does not play when the starter is healthy.


Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1648 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:46 am to
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they get four two hour practices and a walk through. How much time do you suggest they devote do gameplanning for the backup qb? It wouldn't have been as bad without the short fields. I'm still not sure why you can't get your guys together and coach up a fix in game. It's a numbers game. Get more guys crashing the mesh. Make Reed beat you with his arm.


All of this… if they spent hours preparing for the backup and the starter kills us, imagine the reaction from the rant if the players said they wasted time preparing for a backup.

The short field basically had our backs against the wall every possession and gave us no opportunity to adjust.

With all that being said, it was also puzzling why we didn’t just overcompensate to adjust to stop the read option. It basically got to the point that everyone knew what was about to happen and we still couldn’t stop it. You would think that the defense had a fundamental understanding of how to defend mobile QB’s. It’s not like it’s something they’ve never seen before.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11962 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:50 am to
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But is inexcusable for a Coaching staff not to prepare some for Reed.


You think many SEC coaches prep for Swann or Collins?
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:52 am to
quote:


We are prepared for that scheme. Other opponents run it. Arkansas does a lot of the same. I can see the first possesion being caught off guard. But after that we should know thos roles and assignments.


Arky and USCe both used the same stuff

however there is no way LSU can replicate Reed's speed in practice with the scout team offense and it caught the LSU defense off guard
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1563 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:05 am to
agree with you
wish we would have tried an back up QB when ours starting limping and throwing the ball to the other team
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10246 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:12 am to
I thought they might start Reed. Not sure how an entire staff would think that it was impossible for him to come in the game at all.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:35 am to
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wish we would have tried an back up QB when ours starting limping and throwing the ball to the other team


Unfortunately we don't have a legit option at backup QB. Even if we did run Collins or Swann out there, they aren't a different style than Nuss so it wouldn't have messed up A&Ms gameplan.

I also think that benching your starter needs to be reserved for when you are ready to make a permanent change. You don't bench a guy and then throw him out there as starter again the next week. No matter how poorly Nuss played in that second half, he is our guy and therefore should not be benched.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36864 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 11:37 am to
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Bakers game plan was so honed in we completely forgot about Reed


From what Kelly said or hinted at after the game, their "game plan" for Reed was to defend him like they defended the quarterback from Arkansas. Turns out that bold strategy didn't pay off.
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