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Climate Change Question...not regarding man made or natural cycles...
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:32 am
Can we at least agree the climate is changing?
I don't care if it's man made or natural cycles.
"Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently and there is no doubt about that so let's stop arguing if it's man made or natural.
I don't care if it's man made or natural cycles.
"Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently and there is no doubt about that so let's stop arguing if it's man made or natural.
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:34 am to sidewalkside
Certainly it’s changing. I don’t know that that has ever been in question really. It’s just man affecting the climate that has always been the real debate. The earth’s climate has always fluctuated throughout existence.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:34 am to sidewalkside
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Can we at least agree the climate is changing?
I don’t think you’ll find anyone who thinks differently…..
The argument is over how much impact humans have.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:35 am to sidewalkside
quote:We're in an Ice Age. Stadial-Interstadial climate change is the defining element.
Can we at least agree the climate is changing?
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:35 am to sidewalkside
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Can we at least agree the climate is changing?
Of course it is. It always is
And a warmer planet is better for humans and animals than a colder one ackchually
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:37 am to sidewalkside
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"Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently and there is no doubt about that
What in the world are you talking about?
Look, you can slice "extreme weather events" into any timeframe or arbitrary grouping you want to make any point you want. Cut it one way, and you can scream it's getting worse. Cut it another, and you can say it's the same as always. And we don't have that much data, historically speaking, about how frequent "extreme weather events" occurred. You have no idea when you start getting more than a few hundred years back.
So, there is plenty of room to doubt extreme weather events picking up in frequency.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:40 am to sidewalkside
There’s a lot more that goes into it than just saying climate change. Population growth, urban sprawl, people living in places we didn’t in the past. Everyone decided they wanted a house or a condo on the beach so hurricanes are costlier.. which is a metric some people like to use. (Yes, one just caused a lot of damage in the mountains; but it’s not the first time they’ve been wiped out in flood.)
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:40 am to sidewalkside
quote:Show me your data.
"Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:40 am to sidewalkside
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I don't care if it's man made or natural cycles.
Right when 100% of it can be explained by natural occurrences, Hunga Tonga volcano, La Niña…
Why focus on driving factors when the white man bad narrative is so juicy?
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:40 am to sidewalkside
Nothing is static baw other than your sex life
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:41 am to sidewalkside
Just after Al gore invented the internets he discovered climate changes. What a guy!,
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:41 am to sidewalkside
I think the extreme part is more to do with media hype and people being softer than in the past. Plus increased development leads to more damage for the same intensity of past storms.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:43 am to sidewalkside
quote:
"Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently
Proof?
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:43 am to sidewalkside
Yea.
But those two jets Taylor Swift keeps flying around sure aren’t helping.
But those two jets Taylor Swift keeps flying around sure aren’t helping.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:44 am to sidewalkside
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Can we at least agree the climate is changing?
As compared to what time period and what particular metric? Im genuinely curious, what has changed from today to - pick a point in the past.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:44 am to beerJeep
quote:And what are reasonable/effective responses to whatever the human impact is?
The argument is over how much impact humans have.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:45 am to sidewalkside
Its both.
However, the doomsday prophets of climate change have filled our heads with so many fairy tales that havent come true, they have become their own worst enemy.
However, the doomsday prophets of climate change have filled our heads with so many fairy tales that havent come true, they have become their own worst enemy.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:47 am to The Boat
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There’s a lot more that goes into it than just saying climate change. Population growth, urban sprawl, people living in places we didn’t in the past.
This impacts pretty much every type of weather event, too: tornadoes, flooding, wildfire, heavy snow events, all of it. Wildfire may be the most glaring example, even moreso than hurricanes.
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:49 am to Strannix
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what has changed from today to - pick a point in the past.
average hurricane season water temperatures in the gulf of mexico to, say, the time period that they've been measured?
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:50 am to sidewalkside
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"Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are 'happening more frequently and there is no doubt about that so let's stop arguing if it's man made or natural.
Data have shown that this is not necessarily the case. Maybe it's because more people are living in areas affected by extreme weather (like hurricanes) exaggerating its impact. Pretty much no one lived in Florida until the 20th century now it's the third most populous state behind California and Texas.
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