Started By
Message

Why are bands mysteriously disappearing? Rick Beato video

Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28011 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:55 am
I've been speaking to this for a while now with my wife and friends, but damn I didn't realize to what extent we have gotten away from bands in music. We are living in the solo artist realm now. These statistics are absolutely bonkers.


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38253 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

I've been speaking to this for a while now with my wife and friends, but damn I didn't realize to what extent we have gotten away from bands in music. We are living in the solo artist realm now. These statistics are absolutely bonkers.
Bands were just one iteration of popular music. Many of us grew up in that milieu where we sort of thought they were just a fact of nature. The reality is that, before The Beatles, they weren't really that much of a thing. Then they had an extended golden age. Now that's past.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6565 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:42 pm to
Yeah, the complete one-note quality of the modern "project" - which is usually some dude on his bedroom computer - is palpable. And when they tour, the few I've seen are terribly awkward to watch performed live.
Posted by beauxgy
LA
Member since Feb 2007
3884 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:33 pm to
Anyone with Pro Tools and auto tune is a "musician" now.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30794 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 3:30 pm to
Nothing mysterious about it in my opinion.
If you are a good writer, musician and singer, with a grasp on exactly how you want your material to sound, a band can be a liability.
Technology has made it possible to do most anything by yourself in a studio.
Now, if you want to be out there doing covers in a live setting, you need a band. Otherwise, not so much.
With that said, I enjoy picking with friends pretty often and a couple of them like to do my songs. It's fun and I love some of the things they come up with to add flavor, but sometimes things can get off track from my original vision for a song.
3:15 songs become 7 minutes long and stuff like that.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89722 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:21 pm to
because everything in main stream media is crafted and a solo artist is much easier to control than a band

the teen girl pop star factory going back to the 90s to today is a perfect example

the latest iteration of the billie eilish breathy whisper singing girl with super slick production is terrible

olivia rodrigo and sabrina carpenter are prime examples



Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23251 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:48 pm to
That was interesting to listen to and I didn't even realize that was going on... but I also don't listen to the mainstream and bands are alive and well in indie/underground rock..
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17194 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:27 am to
Another reason rock music is dying.

He mentioned country artists in the video but it seems that genre has always been dominated by solo artists.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 6:28 am
Posted by Flavius C Julianus
Member since Sep 2024
129 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:55 am to
quote:

the latest iteration of the billie eilish breathy whisper singing girl with super slick production is terrible

olivia rodrigo and sabrina carpenter are prime examples


Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina Carpenter are not “breathy whisper singing girls”.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28011 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:41 am to
quote:

bands are alive and well in indie/underground rock..



True, but they aren't finding the popularity like they have in the past. Mainstream music today is all algorithmic. There is very little depth and creativity in it. When I hear my kids' music they listen to, it's not bad but rather just bland and stale. I can hear the appeal in it, but there's not much originality and uniqueness to it. We have become robotic consumers the last decade.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67230 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:38 pm to
Yeh, making music and films became too democratic and accessible.
Posted by BogeyTX
Member since Apr 2018
977 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:02 pm to


Tom Petty saw the music industry going down the crappy long before he passed away.

My name's joe
I'm the CEO
Yeah, I'm the man
Makes the big wheels roll
I'm the hand on the green light switch
You get to be famous
I get to be rich
Go get me a kid
With a good-looking face
Bring me a kid
Can remember his place
Some hungry poet
Son of a bitch
He gets to be famous
I get to be rich
Or bring me a girl
They're always the best
You put 'em on stage
And you have 'em undress
Some angel whore
Who can learn a guitar lick
Hey, now that's what I call music
Well they'll come lookin' for money
When the public gets bored
But we'll fight 'em with lawyers
They could never afford
Yeah, I'll make her look
Like a spoiled little bitch
She gets to be famous
I get to be rich
Or bring me a girl
There always the best
You put 'em on stage
And you have 'em undress
Some angel whore
Could learn a guitar lick
Hey, now that's what I call
Music
So burnt-out Johnny
Thinks our books are shifty
What good's that alchie to me when he's fifty
We could move catalog
If he'd only die quicker
Send my regards to the gig
And a case of good liquor
He gets to be famous
I get to be rich
He gets to be famous
I get to be rich
My name's Joe, I'm the CEO
I'm the man makes
The big wheels roll
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41495 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:32 pm to
I don't care about rock bands being on the cover of magazines or getting mainstream press. Rock is better when it doesn't cater to the masses. There are still plenty of bands making a full time living from music.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89722 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina Carpenter are not “breathy whisper singing girls”.


looks like we found the 14 year old girl on the board

I can go into the Performing Arts Dept at a Texas 6A HS and find as many Sabrina Carpenters and Olivia Rodrigos as you want, some of them can probably even play piano as basically as Rodrigo can

performing arts high schools and colleges talent laughs at these girl pop singers

what is funny is the same companies that churn out these artists also own the ranking services like Billboard and are tied in to the streaming services to decide who is "hot" and who is "not"

The company that owns Billboard (Eldridge) also has artist and publishing management deals with Sony Music and Universal Music



Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
3674 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:09 pm to
Mainstream music has always been mostly crap especially now.
Taylor Swift annoys the heck out of me but at least she can play multiple instruments and she writes a lot of her own lyrics for the most part.
There are so many great new bands out there right now. It’s hard to keep up.
FYI Here’s a great brand new interview with Jerry Cantrell by Rick Beato
(when bands thrived)


This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31478 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:24 pm to
My hot take on why bands aren’t charting like they used to: Reality TV. Reality TV killed MTV as the singular platform for new music exposure to the national audience. Used to be if you got a hit video on MTV you were off and running. It’s much harder to break through now.

Frankly, I think the lower barriers to entry for producing music have improved music in some areas. Most bands/artists I listen to now self-produce.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86274 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:30 pm to
It's definitely technology, but not just one hit from it. Not only is it easy to create now, but tech made it harder for a band to make money by producing albums, which is why bands used to form in the first place.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89722 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Mainstream music has always been mostly crap especially now.


this has been covered at length but everything changed when it actually became organized crime and not disorganized crime

when it was de-centralized it was way more organic but also far more corrupt

listening to AM rock radio stations on car radios and album sales became the way the new rock music was consumed by young people and popularity exploded

to break a new song, record label guys had to literally pay DJs to play their artists songs and when the payola scandals of 1959 hit the industry it forced the Feds to begin to regulate the industry

quote:

In 1960, as a result of the congressional hearings, Congress amended the Federal Communications Act, specifically sections 317 and 507, to outlaw under-the-table payments and require broadcasters to disclose if airplay for a song has been purchased. The FCC takes this seriously; in 2000, it fined a Texas radio station $4,000 for accepting money for playing a Bryan Adams song without telling anyone (although you can understand why Bryan Adams’s promoters would be driven to payola).


So when regulations happened more legitimate business men got into the market and funded artists and labels. The businessmen were there to make money, not be music critics, so an artist like Frank Zappa could make avant garde albums and still get them distributed.

This changed when Clive Davis came to power and the businessmen that ran the industry also thought they knew what was good or not. These businessmen homogenized popular music and have continuously reduced the artist's power to the point that an artist like Sabrina Carpenter can be signed on an original Disney Talent contract and her entire career is outright owned by Disney (song, publishing and her image rights) and Universal Music (distribution rights).

Carpenter gets songwriter credits and percentages of her image, licensing, product sales/downloads and that is it. Disney and Universal own everything associated with her.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6565 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

I don't care about rock bands being on the cover of magazines or getting mainstream press. Rock is better when it doesn't cater to the masses.


No it isn't. It's some average band no one ever hears. And the rest of the world's talent is stuck in a bad cover band somewhere.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31478 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:07 pm to
Alternative Hypothesis #1: Travelball. Good bands that last form much easier among the youngs with a lot of free time. With travelball taking an increasingly larger share of the youngs’ time, there is much less time to devote to musical pursuits. Band numbers suffer.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 8:09 pm
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram