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Old Fashioned vs. Manhattan
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am
"Both cocktails call for whisky and Angostura bitters, but the defining factor lies in their sweetening agents. The Old Fashioned opts for straightforward sugar or syrup, helping to soften the whisky. In contrast the Manhattan favours a sweet vermouth – adding fruity and caramel flavours into the mix."
Which does the Food and Drink Board prefer and why?

Which does the Food and Drink Board prefer and why?

Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:41 am to VMO7
Never had a Manhattan. I know I have some sort of vermouth. I'll have to see what it is.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:44 am to VMO7
Not a fan of Manhattans because of the vermouth, so I'd say an old fashioned. My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:10 am to VMO7
Old fashioned is far superior IMO, but vermouth isn't my thing
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:27 am to VMO7
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Which does the Food and Drink Board prefer and why?
I like both, but I feel like you have to use something like a rye whiskey to cut the sweetness of either.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:38 am to VMO7
A Manhattan with a rye straight up is one of the best ways to start a nice dinner. I also feel it's a bit more boozey...to get things kicked off in the right direction. It's a touch of class served in a cocktail glass as well.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:46 am to VMO7
Manhattan with rye is my favorite cocktail but I love vermouth. In Spain they serve straight vermouth over ice and its fantastic.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 10:50 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:05 am to MikeTheTiger11
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My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though
Yep, same here
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:24 am to VMO7
A manhattan up in the right environment is great, an old fashioned at a steakhouse or also great.
I drink old fashioned more but having a manhattan is usually the more “fun” experience bc of the situation I drink those in
I drink old fashioned more but having a manhattan is usually the more “fun” experience bc of the situation I drink those in
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:37 am to VMO7
Both very good.
Old fashioned is my go to though.
Old fashioned is my go to though.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:38 am to VMO7
I am a Manhattan drinker but will order an Old Fashion if I am not wanting to get down to some serious drinking.
That being said, the amateur bartender makes an OF as a sugar bomb. It isn't supposed to be dessert. Tell them you want it bourbon forward and it will be a better drink all around.
If there is steak involved, it's a "Manhattan Up Stirred." Never shake it.
I walked into a steakhouse where I was a regular a couple of years ago and there was a new bartender behind the bar. I ordered "Manhattan up and stirred. Please don't shake it." The guy looked at me over the glass he was polishing (like in a movie) and said "are we going to have a problem?" I was confused and said "what?" He said, "you walk in here and insult me by assuming I would shake a Manhattan?" I laughed and said "we are going to get along fine."
That being said, the amateur bartender makes an OF as a sugar bomb. It isn't supposed to be dessert. Tell them you want it bourbon forward and it will be a better drink all around.
If there is steak involved, it's a "Manhattan Up Stirred." Never shake it.
I walked into a steakhouse where I was a regular a couple of years ago and there was a new bartender behind the bar. I ordered "Manhattan up and stirred. Please don't shake it." The guy looked at me over the glass he was polishing (like in a movie) and said "are we going to have a problem?" I was confused and said "what?" He said, "you walk in here and insult me by assuming I would shake a Manhattan?" I laughed and said "we are going to get along fine."
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:48 am to Zappas Stache
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In Spain they serve straight vermouth over ice and its fantastic.
This. There's quite a bit more vermouth out there than the standard Martini and Rossi or Gallo.
I love herbal drinks especially as an apertif before a nice dinner. So I much prefer a Manhatten before a nice dinner like a steak, but I love an old fashion if I'm just drinking or watching football or something.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:10 pm to VMO7
My go to is Old Fashioned but I always ask for it on the dry side so I can taste the whiskey. Sometimes all you taste is sugar. I do order Manhattan with rye. Sometimes I order perfect Manhattan. It has both sweet and dry vermouth
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:12 pm to VMO7
Old Fashioned, but very light on the simple syrup. Sometimes I just use a tea spoon or two of the juice from the jar of cherries. Also prefer a large ice cube over small ice...though that's just me being picky.
I definitely do prefer it made with a rye.
I definitely do prefer it made with a rye.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:21 pm to MikeTheTiger11
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Not a fan of Manhattans because of the vermouth, so I'd say an old fashioned. My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though
This is my exact preference

Posted on 9/13/24 at 1:09 pm to RonFNSwanson
I recently saw someone replace simple syrup with banana liqueur and angostura with walnut bitters. I tried it. It's the best mixed drink I have ever had.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 2:01 pm to VMO7
Rob Roy
It's a Manhattan with Scotch Wiskey instead of American or Canadian Whiskeys.
It's a Manhattan with Scotch Wiskey instead of American or Canadian Whiskeys.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:07 pm to VMO7
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Old Fashioned vs. Manhattan
Fans of both of these should consider trying a La Louisiane. It's an old New Orleans cocktail that has been coming back to life in recent years. The link below has a good write up on it and recipe.
LINK
The recipe I think I've settled on a home is:
1.5 ounce Sazerac Rye
1 ounce B&B brandy
3/4 ounce sweet vermouth
4 dashes of Peychaud's bitters
Luxardo cherry
This is an attempt to copy the way they make it at Bistro Byronz.

Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:10 pm to BigDropper
What are the proportions of a Manhattan? Isn’t it 2:1 whiskey:vermouth?
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