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Old Fashioned vs. Manhattan

Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am
Posted by VMO7
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am
"Both cocktails call for whisky and Angostura bitters, but the defining factor lies in their sweetening agents. The Old Fashioned opts for straightforward sugar or syrup, helping to soften the whisky. In contrast the Manhattan favours a sweet vermouth – adding fruity and caramel flavours into the mix."

Which does the Food and Drink Board prefer and why?

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:41 am to
Never had a Manhattan. I know I have some sort of vermouth. I'll have to see what it is.
Posted by MikeTheTiger11
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:44 am to
Not a fan of Manhattans because of the vermouth, so I'd say an old fashioned. My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:10 am to
Old fashioned is far superior IMO, but vermouth isn't my thing
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107689 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Which does the Food and Drink Board prefer and why?



I like both, but I feel like you have to use something like a rye whiskey to cut the sweetness of either.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4556 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:38 am to
A Manhattan with a rye straight up is one of the best ways to start a nice dinner. I also feel it's a bit more boozey...to get things kicked off in the right direction. It's a touch of class served in a cocktail glass as well.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40979 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:46 am to
Manhattan with rye is my favorite cocktail but I love vermouth. In Spain they serve straight vermouth over ice and its fantastic.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 10:50 am
Posted by RichJ
The Land of the CoonAss
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:05 am to
quote:

My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though


Yep, same here
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24872 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:24 am to
A manhattan up in the right environment is great, an old fashioned at a steakhouse or also great.

I drink old fashioned more but having a manhattan is usually the more “fun” experience bc of the situation I drink those in
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:37 am to
Both very good.

Old fashioned is my go to though.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:38 am to
I am a Manhattan drinker but will order an Old Fashion if I am not wanting to get down to some serious drinking.

That being said, the amateur bartender makes an OF as a sugar bomb. It isn't supposed to be dessert. Tell them you want it bourbon forward and it will be a better drink all around.

If there is steak involved, it's a "Manhattan Up Stirred." Never shake it.

I walked into a steakhouse where I was a regular a couple of years ago and there was a new bartender behind the bar. I ordered "Manhattan up and stirred. Please don't shake it." The guy looked at me over the glass he was polishing (like in a movie) and said "are we going to have a problem?" I was confused and said "what?" He said, "you walk in here and insult me by assuming I would shake a Manhattan?" I laughed and said "we are going to get along fine."
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22501 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:48 am to
quote:

In Spain they serve straight vermouth over ice and its fantastic.


This. There's quite a bit more vermouth out there than the standard Martini and Rossi or Gallo.

I love herbal drinks especially as an apertif before a nice dinner. So I much prefer a Manhatten before a nice dinner like a steak, but I love an old fashion if I'm just drinking or watching football or something.
Posted by lsuoldft
Perdido Key, FL
Member since Jul 2014
266 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:10 pm to
My go to is Old Fashioned but I always ask for it on the dry side so I can taste the whiskey. Sometimes all you taste is sugar. I do order Manhattan with rye. Sometimes I order perfect Manhattan. It has both sweet and dry vermouth
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25140 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:12 pm to
Old Fashioned, but very light on the simple syrup. Sometimes I just use a tea spoon or two of the juice from the jar of cherries. Also prefer a large ice cube over small ice...though that's just me being picky.

I definitely do prefer it made with a rye.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Member since Mar 2012
23838 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Not a fan of Manhattans because of the vermouth, so I'd say an old fashioned. My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though


This is my exact preference
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84505 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 1:09 pm to
I recently saw someone replace simple syrup with banana liqueur and angostura with walnut bitters. I tried it. It's the best mixed drink I have ever had.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8151 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 2:01 pm to
Rob Roy

It's a Manhattan with Scotch Wiskey instead of American or Canadian Whiskeys.
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4735 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:02 pm to
Manhattan for me
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20590 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Old Fashioned vs. Manhattan



Fans of both of these should consider trying a La Louisiane. It's an old New Orleans cocktail that has been coming back to life in recent years. The link below has a good write up on it and recipe.

LINK


The recipe I think I've settled on a home is:

1.5 ounce Sazerac Rye
1 ounce B&B brandy
3/4 ounce sweet vermouth
4 dashes of Peychaud's bitters
Luxardo cherry

This is an attempt to copy the way they make it at Bistro Byronz.

Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
2443 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:10 pm to
What are the proportions of a Manhattan? Isn’t it 2:1 whiskey:vermouth?
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