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Old Fashioned vs. Manhattan
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:41 am to VMO7
Never had a Manhattan. I know I have some sort of vermouth. I'll have to see what it is.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:44 am to VMO7
Not a fan of Manhattans because of the vermouth, so I'd say an old fashioned. My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:10 am to VMO7
Old fashioned is far superior IMO, but vermouth isn't my thing
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:27 am to VMO7
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Which does the Food and Drink Board prefer and why?
I like both, but I feel like you have to use something like a rye whiskey to cut the sweetness of either.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:38 am to VMO7
A Manhattan with a rye straight up is one of the best ways to start a nice dinner. I also feel it's a bit more boozey...to get things kicked off in the right direction. It's a touch of class served in a cocktail glass as well.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:46 am to VMO7
Manhattan with rye is my favorite cocktail but I love vermouth. In Spain they serve straight vermouth over ice and its fantastic.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 10:50 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:05 am to MikeTheTiger11
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My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though
Yep, same here
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:24 am to VMO7
A manhattan up in the right environment is great, an old fashioned at a steakhouse or also great.
I drink old fashioned more but having a manhattan is usually the more “fun” experience bc of the situation I drink those in
I drink old fashioned more but having a manhattan is usually the more “fun” experience bc of the situation I drink those in
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:37 am to VMO7
Both very good.
Old fashioned is my go to though.
Old fashioned is my go to though.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:38 am to VMO7
I am a Manhattan drinker but will order an Old Fashion if I am not wanting to get down to some serious drinking.
That being said, the amateur bartender makes an OF as a sugar bomb. It isn't supposed to be dessert. Tell them you want it bourbon forward and it will be a better drink all around.
If there is steak involved, it's a "Manhattan Up Stirred." Never shake it.
I walked into a steakhouse where I was a regular a couple of years ago and there was a new bartender behind the bar. I ordered "Manhattan up and stirred. Please don't shake it." The guy looked at me over the glass he was polishing (like in a movie) and said "are we going to have a problem?" I was confused and said "what?" He said, "you walk in here and insult me by assuming I would shake a Manhattan?" I laughed and said "we are going to get along fine."
That being said, the amateur bartender makes an OF as a sugar bomb. It isn't supposed to be dessert. Tell them you want it bourbon forward and it will be a better drink all around.
If there is steak involved, it's a "Manhattan Up Stirred." Never shake it.
I walked into a steakhouse where I was a regular a couple of years ago and there was a new bartender behind the bar. I ordered "Manhattan up and stirred. Please don't shake it." The guy looked at me over the glass he was polishing (like in a movie) and said "are we going to have a problem?" I was confused and said "what?" He said, "you walk in here and insult me by assuming I would shake a Manhattan?" I laughed and said "we are going to get along fine."
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:48 am to Zappas Stache
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In Spain they serve straight vermouth over ice and its fantastic.
This. There's quite a bit more vermouth out there than the standard Martini and Rossi or Gallo.
I love herbal drinks especially as an apertif before a nice dinner. So I much prefer a Manhatten before a nice dinner like a steak, but I love an old fashion if I'm just drinking or watching football or something.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:10 pm to VMO7
My go to is Old Fashioned but I always ask for it on the dry side so I can taste the whiskey. Sometimes all you taste is sugar. I do order Manhattan with rye. Sometimes I order perfect Manhattan. It has both sweet and dry vermouth
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:12 pm to VMO7
Old Fashioned, but very light on the simple syrup. Sometimes I just use a tea spoon or two of the juice from the jar of cherries. Also prefer a large ice cube over small ice...though that's just me being picky.
I definitely do prefer it made with a rye.
I definitely do prefer it made with a rye.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:21 pm to MikeTheTiger11
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Not a fan of Manhattans because of the vermouth, so I'd say an old fashioned. My preferred classic cocktail is a sazerac though
This is my exact preference
Posted on 9/13/24 at 1:09 pm to RonFNSwanson
I recently saw someone replace simple syrup with banana liqueur and angostura with walnut bitters. I tried it. It's the best mixed drink I have ever had.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 2:01 pm to VMO7
Rob Roy
It's a Manhattan with Scotch Wiskey instead of American or Canadian Whiskeys.
It's a Manhattan with Scotch Wiskey instead of American or Canadian Whiskeys.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:02 pm to VMO7
Manhattan for me
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:07 pm to VMO7
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Old Fashioned vs. Manhattan
Fans of both of these should consider trying a La Louisiane. It's an old New Orleans cocktail that has been coming back to life in recent years. The link below has a good write up on it and recipe.
LINK
The recipe I think I've settled on a home is:
1.5 ounce Sazerac Rye
1 ounce B&B brandy
3/4 ounce sweet vermouth
4 dashes of Peychaud's bitters
Luxardo cherry
This is an attempt to copy the way they make it at Bistro Byronz.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 3:10 pm to BigDropper
What are the proportions of a Manhattan? Isn’t it 2:1 whiskey:vermouth?
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