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The new tax rules are no joke

Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:26 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:26 am
The Clippers are blaming the new 2nd Apron restrictions for why they are letting Paul George walk for nothing. We know it’s not an unwillingness of Ballmer to pay the tax with his couch change.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103152 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:00 am to
Well we knew this was coming but someone had to say the quiet part out loud.

This kind of shite is why that 27 Bucks pick may still be worth a lot, as they are capped to hell and back with a lot of aging pieces around Giannis.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3328 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:29 am to
Suns, Warriors, Bucks, Nuggets and Wolves are probably screwed for the future with the CBA. Only one I see that are fine second apron teams are probably Celtics and Knicks.

You won’t see teams really trading much. Especially when guys are getting paid 50+ million a year

NBA is the only sport that teams get punished with restrictions for wanting to spend more. They should’ve done a hard cap instead.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:35 am to
Hard cap and get rid of the max.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:29 am to
Players won’t go for a hard cap, that was discussed
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46740 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:50 am to
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Suns, Warriors, Bucks, Nuggets and Wolves are probably screwed for the future with the CBA
pels have four players now making over 20% of the cap, with one more (Murphy) to come. Short term issue but it will direct roster moves to come if they plan to have at least three of those guys going forward
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 6:51 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20729 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:56 am to
It's changed the whole dynamics of building a competitive roster. The focus used to be more purely on talent, but now it's shifting to the talent/salary ratio.

In other words, the new way to win titles is to get guys who outplay their contracts. That means hitting on draft picks and also doing stuff like locking up Herb's extension an off-season before he starts hitting his 3's.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46740 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:59 am to
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In other words, the new way to win titles is to get guys who outplay their contracts. That means hitting on draft picks
completely agree and I’d like to point out that that is not a recipe for multi year success. In other (other) words it should result in more one year team wonders which would be good
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36482 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:59 am to
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They should’ve done a hard cap instead.

They essentially did make a de facto hard cap.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29817 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:05 am to
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In other words, the new way to win titles is to get guys who outplay their contracts.


Or they could stop giving guys like OG a max contract
The point of it is to have more competitive balance, and teams not having 3 max contracts on their team like the clippers.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11225 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:07 am to
Balmer doesn't mind spending, but he doesn't want to look foolish doing it. If he spends 250M (with taxes) and another team beats them, and puts them out of the playoffs, while spending less than 200M, in his mind he just wasted 50M. That's horrible business. Paying more for lesser results is a mark of bad management and that's not sustainable long-term. Even the Warriors are tired of wasting money..
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20729 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:09 am to
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I’d like to point out that that is not a recipe for multi year success


Yep. Dynasties are much less likely in the future. The league will have more competitive balance.

And that was the goal of this CBA.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3328 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:58 am to
We all can thank KD for that.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33914 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:16 am to
Same thing will happen to the Celtics after next yr.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33914 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:17 am to
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Only one I see that are fine second apron teams are probably Celtics and Knicks.



The Knicks will be fine cause their money is spread out between 6 or 7 players.

Celtics are going to have to get rid of white or jrue.

After next yr white and Tatum's new deals will kick in
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13491 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:30 am to
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The Clippers are blaming the new 2nd Apron restrictions for why they are letting Paul George walk for nothing. We know it’s not an unwillingness of Ballmer to pay the tax with his couch change.

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That's a BS excuse. They did not want to offer him a 4th year. That 4th year would not have been the deciding factor on whether they were a 2nd year apron team this year or the next 2.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:47 am to
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Hard cap and get rid of the max.

Hard cap, no max, no draft

Let's get crazy!!
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8008 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:49 am to
So the Clips ended up trading 4 1st round picks, 2 pick swaps, Danilo Gallinari and SGA for 5 seasons of Paul George. Has to be the worst trade in NBA history.
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