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One play I didn't see discussed here was the base hit in the 9th to tie the game.

Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:04 am
Posted by Pistol 23
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:04 am
UNC had the runner on 2nd with one out. This was the batter after the failed bunt attempt. Wilkerson bloops a ball into left field to make it 3-3. I need to go back and watch the end of the game again, but it seemed like Pearson was positioned very deep in left field. Wilkerson had two HR's on the year. If he's at normal depth, maybe he catches that ball?
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 12:05 am
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:12 am to
He was positioned extremely deep playing nothing over your head and everything in front. No shot on a base hit to throw him out.
Posted by Got Blaze
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:23 am to
It was discussed a dozen times in various posts during and immediately after the game. All agreed Pearson was playing very deep with his heels on the warning track. When Jump got the ball in the 9th, the matchup seemed to favor LSU. The NC 7-8-9 batters were up and a combined 1-8 with 4 K’s.. Jump was ahead in the count 0-2 and 1-2 to all three batters. Unfortunately his 94-96 mph fastball had little movement and the UNC batters were picking it up well and got the clutch hits.
Posted by windmill
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:58 am to
It has indeed been discussed in other posts and the consensus is that Pierson was playing too deep..Perhaps JJ had a different idea.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:32 am to
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He was positioned extremely deep playing nothing over your head and everything in front. No shot on a base hit to throw him out.

I'm no coach, but to me it makes no sense in this situation. I guess "nothing over your head" also means "keep everything in front of you" meaning Johnson assumed the runner would hold at 3rd on a single to the OF. Which doesn't work with the weak arms LSU has in the OF.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:36 am to
The thing here for me is it was a great pitch, jammed him in on the hands, classic cheap aluminum bat hit. If it's a wood bat that breaks the bat and it's almost certainly an out.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:45 am to
You have to play your OF deeper in that situation to try to prevent the runner from second from scoring. 99.9% of teams in baseball are playing it that exact way. Them getting sawed off and it dropping perfectly doesn't make it the wrong call. It's just the bad break of that situation.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:03 am to
The Chief lines up the players - it’s his call
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:04 am to
He went around the pitch before that should have been strike 3
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:06 am to
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You have to play your OF deeper in that situation to try to prevent the runner from second from scoring


Disagree, you play where you can make a play to the plate on a base hit. None of our outfielders are throwing a runner out at the plate from that deep. Who cares if he hits a double to the wall.

See game 2 national championship series last year. Same situation but he is playing MUCH shallower.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175803 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:46 am to
People have been complaining about defensive positioning since 2022. It’s been downright bad at times and a consistent problem. At least everyone has noticed it now.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
3161 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:53 am to
They may have been picking it up well but the hit that tied the game was a total jam shot off the handle and the first hit was on a slider after the batter seemed overmatched by Jump's fb.
Posted by Bill W Tiger
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:04 am to
quote:

The thing here for me is it was a great pitch, jammed him in on the hands, classic cheap aluminum bat hit. If it's a wood bat that breaks the bat and it's almost certainly an out.



True...true...true!
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Who cares if he hits a double to the wall.

Who cares if the winning run gets in scoring position?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:24 am to
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I guess "nothing over your head" also means "keep everything in front of you" meaning Johnson assumed the runner would hold at 3rd on a single to the OF. Which doesn't work with the weak arms LSU has in the OF.



With the tying on second, you don’t want to allow a double which would allow the winning run to get to second.

You are conceding the tie in order to extend the game keeping the batter runner at 1B.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 8:26 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:27 am to
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You have to play your OF deeper in that situation to try to prevent the runner from second from scoring.


You should read the sentence again and again and again HT 10 until you figure out your issue.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Who cares if he hits a double to the wall.

Who cares if the winning run gets in scoring position?


We try to help them, P. We try.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:57 am to
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Who cares if the winning run gets in scoring position?


You haven't gotten a hit since the 3rd inning. You offense shows no signs of life, they have their top arms still in the game, and you have your best arm on the mound. If they get a double so be it, you HAVE to prevent the tying run from scoring there.

All that said, he was playing 3 steps off the warning track in deep left center field. A ball over his head is a homerun in a big park that is 370 to the wall in LCF. It is a terrible position to be in.

Oh yea against a guy that has 2 homeruns on the year.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 9:02 am
Posted by Run DMC
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:02 am to
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Unfortunately his 94-96 mph fastball had little movement and the UNC batters were picking it up well and got the clutch hits.


This was the whole issue in this situation for me. Yeskie called 11 straight fastballs, 9 of them to the 9 hole hitter with 1 out. An 0-2 count and a slider in that situation would have been a swing and a miss about 99% of the time. But he kept calling fastballs like he did the day before when Herring was on the mound and the gif was created of him asking wtf we were doing throwing so many fastballs.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:05 am to
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You are conceding the tie in order to extend the game keeping the batter runner at 1B.

With where Pearson was playing, that doesn’t guarantee keeping the batter to a single, but does guarantee the game being tied with any base hit to the outfield. In a game in which you are running out of pitching and haven’t gotten a hit in several innings, keeping the tying run from scoring is much more important than keeping the go ahead runner off of 2nd base imo.
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