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That is why you start Ackenhausen

Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:32 pm
Your best available arm going into this game struck out 3 batters and then you pulled him. We held him so he would be able to pitch in high leverage situations at the end of the game then didn’t let him pitch in said high leverage situation. Jay over coached and it’s one of the reasons (along with the offense & Brown’s error) that we lost this game.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
5 freaking hits, man

No need to talk about pitching
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
806 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
Catch the ball.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
8850 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
Did you have this ready to go in the 1st, just in case?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69509 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
Brown miss played a ball in the first in i g also. This loss isn’t on Dalton.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50921 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
Shut the frick up. Seriously.

The 8th is a high leverage situation and the ball went into the #1’s hands.

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
Why was he pulled after striking out the side in the 8th?
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:33 pm to
Pitching was elite.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

LSBoosie
seriously dude shut the frick up. You try to be the Mr. Know it all Baseball poster when in reality you’re dumb as shite.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:36 pm to
I mentioned the offense as well as Brown’s error. Both of those were really bad as well.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:36 pm to
Or you just let him pitch the 9th

He was never starting.
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
3537 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:37 pm to
Agree... starting Dutton was very questionable!
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17019 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Or you just let him pitch the 9th

He was never starting.

That too. I agreed with you in the game thread. Either way they limited their best available bullpen arm to 3 outs and that makes no sense to me.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

Jay over coached

I doubt there’s any scenario where LSU loses this game and you don’t start a thread blaming it on one of his decisions.
Posted by Bengal tail
Member since Aug 2016
773 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:40 pm to
You needed 2 more outs and couldn’t do it!!
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17019 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:42 pm to
Come on dude, are you really going to say you think limiting your best bullpen arm to 3 outs is a good decision? The offense was pitiful. Browns error was inexcusable. There can be multiple reasons we lost this game. It’s ok to admit that.

If Jay says after the game that he should have left Ack in, will you still be pissed at me for agreeing with Jay?
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted by OSTiger77
Ocean Springs
Member since Nov 2017
1938 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:47 pm to
He did against Wofford and he was blah. He is best as a reliever. Not sure about pulling him.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32516 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:48 pm to
He should’ve started the 9th

Sometimes coaches overthink shite
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112439 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

5 freaking hits, man

No need to talk about pitching


The pitching would have made the 5 freaking hits a non-issue if JJ didn't try to outsmart everyone.

Bring Ack back out on a short leash, but to sit him after he struck out the side in the 8th was retarded.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:51 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12635 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:06 pm to
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If Jay says after the game that he should have left Ack in, will you still be pissed at me for agreeing with Jay?

I mean that’s not really what you were criticizing in the OP..? Saying we lost because he went to Jump (which is also silly IMO) =/= saying we lost because Ack didn’t start.
quote:

Come on dude, are you really going to say you think limiting your best bullpen arm to 3 outs is a good decision?

I think pitching Dutton and Coleman early makes sense in a game where Ack is the only guy you feel OK about extending if necessary. If I’m going to have to extend someone and let them work themselves out of trouble because I’m out of arms, I’d rather it be Ackenhausen than Dutton.

We wound up not having to do that because we got a fantastic performance from Helmers, but there was absolutely no guarantee that would happen.

For shits and giggles, let’s say we only got 2 innings from Helmers. That means you would have had 3.1 IP from Helmers, Dutton, and Coleman. But you don’t know you’re only going to get that much, so you pull Ack at the start of the 5th. Now you’re going to Ulloa or Jump in the 8th instead of the 9th. If you can steal a couple of innings from those guys early, you know you need to extend Ack.

We wound up not needing to do that because of Helmers but again, I see the logic.

But perhaps the most bullshite part of this, in my opinion, is blaming a loss on pitching decisions when we held the #4 national seed to 3 runs on 7 hits (through 9 innings) in our 5th game of a regional, when nobody thought we had the pitching to compete in 5 games. In fact, most people around here didn’t think we could compete in a 4th game coming out of the loser’s bracket.

We didn’t lose because of pitching. We lost this game because we only had 5 hits. If you told me we were going to hold UNC to 3 runs in regulation, in the 5th/final game of a regional, 2 weeks ago.. I would tell you I’ll see you in Omaha.
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